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[–]Ponderer[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There's a reason successful political campaigns are based on fear, it motivates people to vote.

There is a difference between "If our enemy wins, we're in trouble! Fortunately we're not done for yet. Here's how we can win instead." and "We're going to lose. We're fucked. It's over."

If you defend the latter, I don't know how to even respond to you.

How much more afraid do you expect people to get? Once they are terminally afraid, cowering under their beds and cringing at every sound, do you expect them to become effective activists?

A little fear can motivate people, but only fear of inaction and only combined with the hope and potential of a workable solution. Doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on fear and providing no alternative is braindead.

[Stopping] White genocide is somewhat hopeless but not impossible if many people work hard to wake whites.

Then you should be saying "Our cause is not impossible if we work hard!" Not "our situation is hopeless" even if it's just "somewhat" hopeless.

But that brings up another blackpill: the altright won't do the necessary hard work of waking whites.

Why do you get off on blackpilling? What is the point of making final, decisive statements like this against the same movement you claim to support?

Such a problem would have to be articulated in order to be solved.

There is a huge difference between articulating a rational position and blackpilling.

Blackpilling is indefensible by definition. It's defeatism. Even if it sometimes deals with accurate information, it frames that information in such a way as to increase hopelessness.

Imagine you're stuck in a burning building with another man. You suggest using a fire extinguisher to put it out, but he says "oh, there's too much fire already, it would never work." You suggest calling the fire brigade, but he says "they'd take too long to get here." You suggest running out through the front door, but he says "there's flames in the way, we'd just burn to death." You suggest jumping out a window, but he says "it's too high, we'd break our bones and die."

Is this man "being realistic"? Of course not. At best he's delusionally depressed, at worst he's a snake who wants you to burn to death.

I'm not even against the rational position you take. There are many white people who hate themselves. But there's only two ways to respond to that: either we can convince them to stop hating themselves, or we ignore them and focus on helping others.

If you want to raise awareness about that, all it takes is a single post. State your position clearly and logically and ask what the next steps are. There is zero need to post over and over for months and years about the latest atrocity caused by woke whites without ever proposing solutions.

[–]peaceful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've posted a lot that the solution is to wake whites, for many people to distribute propaganda massively. I haven't seen a lot of people do it and I know it takes determination and hard work to try to wake up hundreds of millions of whites. I don't think the altright will do it. It's necessary to say we are on the path to defeat on order to right our course. I agree defeatism is bad, but realism is necessary. You are misinterpreting some of my positions. I don't say there's no chance for victory or that nothing should be done. I believe the altright has to create hope for there to be hope.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've posted a lot that the solution is to wake whites

I just went through 16 days of your post history and didn't really see you explain that at all. When it was mentioned it was very offhand. Maybe you should make a post outlining solutions and it might also be a good idea to list out things about whites that you are passionate about.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What are you thoughts on /u/peaceful ? I've gone through his post history and it's extraordinarily negative. I've given him a chance to respond to some questions but I'd also like your input.

[–]Ponderer[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for asking. If you've been through this comment chain you've pretty much seen everything; I don't know him that well.

I don't want to crack down on someone who might just be feeling pessimistic, but maybe a guideline like "don't share bad news without proposing a reasonable, sane, and detailed solution" could be good.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to crack down on someone who might just be feeling

Same here. I appreciate your input. I will see how he responds and I will keep an eye on him.