Vincent James' best video. When Critical Race Theory Leads to anti-White Violence.

submitted by [deleted] from self.debatealtright

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]AidsVictim69 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world almost entirely through their own labour in a wilderness with no infrastructure, development, and often surrounded by mostly hostile natives. The majority never needed or benefited from POC labour. The Southern slave system primarily benefited only the elite (plantation owners and to a lesser extent the coastal merchant class) and the capital derived thereof was mostly reinvested into the plantation system until it was destroyed in the civil war. The rest of black history is sharecropping and scab labour (along with Asian and later Latino immigrants) during the "Great" migration.

and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors.

I don't owe POC anything because I have the same skin color as a plantation owner from 170 years ago.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation

Understanding the reality of historical labour isn't a narrative. The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy. At best a small trickle down profit benefitted a few urban centers via the mercantile class and the Southern families that owned one or two slaves directly benefitted from that labour. And after the accumulation of capital concentrated into that system was destroyed those labourers were nothing but scabs that suppressed Northern whites already developed industrial labour markets.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague.

BIPOC said "no more", and y'all reacted with rage, because your success is built on our exploitation. And without that, you lose your privilege. America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

The rest of black history is sharecropping

Which is just a modification of the plantation system that enriched white people at Black and Indigenous people's expenses. Also, that's not the "rest" of Black history. And capitalize Black, we're talking about a culture, not a color.

The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague

At yet white people saw this as better than the alternative, liberation for Black people.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

As long as we don't literally commit genocide against indigenous people and enslave Black people, it would be impossible to create a WORSE America.

[–]AidsVictim69 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

You're either over invested in your identity as a victim or you're too stupid to understand basic relations between demographics and economics, so whatever. From either a classical (capitalist) or Marxist analysis of what you're (and most racial historical revisionists) claiming makes no sense.

Which is just a modification of the plantation system that enriched white people at Black and Indigenous people's expenses. Also, that's not the "rest" of Black history. And capitalize Black, we're talking about a culture, not a color.

Seems your account is just a gimmick.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

They fought because the elite Southern whites created a false consciousness and convinced them their interests were the same because they were both white, and in some cases that may have been partially true (i.e. Southern families that owned a few slaves). The best thing Southern whites could have done is seized the capital of the plantation owners and deported or sold Southern blacks to the Caribbean, South America, or Africa.

At yet white people saw this as better than the alternative, liberation for Black people.

The majority of white people never held slaves, benefitted from their exploitation, or were particularly interested in them beyond fear of what they might do as free members of society (which was at least partially realized).

As long as we don't literally commit genocide against indigenous people and enslave Black people, it would be impossible to create a WORSE America.

Lots of places in South America and Africa are worse than America in any multitude of ways. Lower IQs, poorer, more violent, more bloody history, etc. American blacks are just insanely narcissistic and stupid to the point of parody.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're either over invested in your identity as a victim

I'm not a victim. I represent a genetic and cultural legacy that survived enslavement, genocide, exploitation, and marginalization, and now I am taking what is rightfully mine.

Seems your account is just a gimmick.

Unlike whites, Black people actually have a culture. Learn how to season your food and accomplish anything without genocide and enslavement.

The best thing Southern whites could have done is seized the capital of the plantation owners and deported or sold Southern blacks to the Caribbean, South America, or Africa.

But they didn't, because they bought into the idea of White supremacy, and now their ancestors are paying their debts.

The majority of white people never held slaves, benefitted from their exploitation

Slave labor reduces the price of goods and increases production. That means whites had access to jobs and resources generated by the productivity of enslaved Black people. Even families that didn't own slaves benefited from the economic productivity.

Lots of places in South America and Africa are worse than America in any multitude of ways.

You mean after Europeans showed up to pillage, spread diseases, rape indigenous people, enslave communities, and commit genocide?

Lower IQs

You mean Black and Indigenous people have a lower score on a metric created by White people that has no real application to actual life? Shocking.

poorer

Because whites enslaved us and committed genocide while pillaging our lands.

more violent

A product of enslavement, genocide, and whites pillaging our lands, creating instability.

more bloody history

Because White people were committing genocide.

American blacks are just insanely narcissistic and stupid to the point of parody.

Wow, a white person projecting. Yawn.

[–]AidsVictim69 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not a victim. I represent a genetic and cultural legacy that survived enslavement, genocide, exploitation, and marginalization, and now I am taking what is rightfully mine.

Your entire self description is just listing the ways you were victimized lol.

Unlike whites, Black people actually have a culture. Learn how to season your food and accomplish anything without genocide and enslavement.

Has there ever been a more degenerate, base, and ephemeral culture than modern black American culture? This is what you're proud of? But I guess if you compare it to some white strawman it seems significant - like the idea that whites don't season their food lmao.

But they didn't, because they bought into the idea of White supremacy, and now their ancestors are paying their debts.

*Descendants.

Slave labor reduces the price of goods and increases production. That means whites had access to jobs and resources generated by the productivity of enslaved Black people. Even families that didn't own slaves benefited from the economic productivity.

You're naively applying generalized labour theory to specialized systems. The vast majority of slave labour was just cash crops. The profits of this exploitation were almost entirely returned to the landowners and re invested into the slave system which was a highly capital intensive system. This neither lowered the price of goods or usefully increased production in any useful way for the majority of whites. Some Southern whites benefitted either because they owned a "family" slave or they profited off trade with Europe for the cash crops. Some civic/infrastructure work was carried out by slaves in limited areas of the South. But in reality the area most enmeshed with slavery was also notably poorer and was never enriched materially any significant way outside the elite Southern aristocracy. The majority of the white population never interacted or materially benefitted from slavery. Whites were the majority of the workers in every class outside some areas of the South, they performed the labour that industrialized the country. Black labour was generally limited to sharecropping in the South (which was neither very profitable compared to the slavery system or beneficial to Southern whites in general) or migrating to the North as scab labour in areas already developed and industrialized by white workers.

If slavery never developed in the US the economic and historical trajectory would have been largely the same because most workers in America have always been white. POC labor was never necessary and if anything their dysfunctional socities have probably been a drain on the development of the country overall.

You mean after Europeans showed up to pillage, spread diseases, rape indigenous people, enslave communities, and commit genocide?

I suppose. Most of those things were happening before Europeans showed up as well. Pre colonial American history is full of imperialism, violence, genocides, and plagues.

You mean Black and Indigenous people have a lower score on a metric created by White people that has no real application to actual life? Shocking.

IQ is the best predictor of overall life success for the average person in almost every category, whether they are white or not, whether they live in the West or not. But if you think it doesn't matter you can go live in societies where people have low IQ. Please do.