Should Hitler have won WW2?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Absolutely. It's hard to imagine anything more dystopic than what has happened to Europe, America, Australia and the White race post-war

Hitler was fine with putting Europeans in death camps for the most non-violent crimes. He was never pro-white, he merely believed in German Supremacy.

Compared to all the bombs and bullets going off 75 years ago, White people today have life far easier, even if the modern media is trash. But the Nazis would have owned that media and replaced it with their own pro-German propaganda.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Yes Hitler rounded them all up and micro managed every single person sent to a 'death camp' in the Nazi period. Also yes he was a German Nationalist first. Has nothing to do with my comment.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You were saying you couldn't image a more dystopic scenario had Hitler won, but we already have examples of what he had in store for Non German Whites. And it ended in mass murder.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Mate this is just childish stuff. The idea that Hitler was just going to start mass murdering non-Germans because he hated them forever is fucking after school special history. 100's of thousands of non-Germans volunteered for the SS with Hitler's blessing. Hitler admired the British deeply. He had scores to settle in the East, no doubt, and let's be honest Slavs gave as good as they got and took their pound of flesh after the war -- the idea of turning them into poor widdle victims is semitic and repulsive -- but the peopl most responsible for Slavic death were the Bolshevisks and Stalin not fucking Hitler.

Also fuck Pole victimhood while we're at it. They were busy gobbling up the historic lands of others like most have done in European history after Germany dissolved Czechoslovakia. This idea that the poor Poles were just innocent doves and their rights to this or that had to be respected is pathetic.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Mate this is just childish stuff. The idea that Hitler was just going to start mass murdering non-Germans because he hated them is fucking after school special history. 100's of thousands of non-Germans volunteered for the SS with Hitler's blessing.

Blacks fought in the U.S Army. Many Indians fought for the British Raj. In no way where they loved by their respective occupiers.

Hitler went the extra mile and created programs solely meant to exterminate groups of people. Aktion T4, literally granted the German government the right to seize anyone they suspect had a physical disability and murder them. That's not pro-white. It was purity nonsense with Hitler calling the shots of who is entitled to life.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yes I get it there was a Euthanasia program in Nazi Germany. Wow. Guess that bad Corporal Hitler was evil after all -- those type of Eugenic policies didn't originate with big bad ebil Hitler BTW.

Blacks fought in the U.S Army. Many Indians fought for the British Raj. In no way where they loved by their respective occupiers.

People volunteered for the SS and died for SS from the people you think Hitler was just going to throw into camps because he was a 'supremacist'. They weren't conscripted. People like Degrelle who wasn't German also became some of the most decorated and high up commanders in the SS and to his dying day defended Nazism. The idea that there was some hatred of a Belgian just because he was Belgian is ridiculous.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yes I get it there was a Euthinasia program in Nazi Germany. Wow. Guess that bad Corporal Hitler was evil after all -- those type of Eugenic policies didn't originate with big bad ebil Hitler BTW.

Is supporting Euthanasia suppose to be a good defense of Hitler? I don't want the government to invade my home and remove me for being "ill". Sounds like the current Covid pandemic and how the government abuses its powers now.

"The government says you're sick. Here, take this mandatory bullet to the head!"

People volunteered for the SS and died for SS from the people you think Hitler was just going to throw into camps because he was a 'supremacist'. They weren't conscripted. People like Degrelle who wasn't German also became some of the most decorated and high up commanders in the SS and to his dying day defended Nazism. The idea that there was some hatred of a Belgian just because he was Belgian is ridiculous.

We call those people useful idiots. I could probably volunteer for the Chinese Army or proclaim eternal support for Xi. That changes nothing about the Chinese government and what they really think of us Westerners. Hitler absolutely would have chucked away those people once they outlived their usefulness. He already did the same within his own party. Look up Ernst Rohm for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm#Death

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is supporting Euthanasia suppose to be a good defense of Hitler?

I didn't say I support it it just doesn't matter to me. In fact it probably ranks somewhere around the level of importance to me as the sewerage policy in pre-war Berlin.

We call those people useful idiots.

Do 'we'? Who's 'we', Kemosabe? Do you know anything about the Charlemagne Division? Read the accounts. These people weren't 'useful idiots' they passionately believed they were fighting for Europe and they were.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't say I support it it just doesn't matter to me. In fact it probably ranks somewhere around the level of importance to me as the sewerage policy in pre-war Berlin.

Well I'm not sure how I can respond to this. Hitler had programs bent on exterminating people. Even worse was when he invaded your country and enforced his rules on you. If that doesn't make him evil, what does?

Do 'we'? Who's 'we', Kemosabe? Do you know anything about the Charlemagne Division? Read the accounts. These people weren't 'useful idiots' they passionately believed they were fighting for Europe and they were.

If they wanted to defend Europe, you would join the Free French Forces or any resistance group opposed to Hitler's war. Doesn't matter how passionate they are, when they were still pawns fighting for a lost cause with millions of Europeans dying.

If you also missed it, Hitler's generals also wanted him dead. The Nazi brand had become pure poison, even amongst his inner circle.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes Ernst Roehm therefore Hitler kills everyone just for no reason. (That fag got what was coming to him and he wasn't just killed for no reason the Brown Shirts were becoming dangerous to Hitler's ambitions.)

Can we just agree that I accept Hitler could be very cruel, made many mistakes and was defeated. I accept all this.

He was still fighting for what I consider is right and just and that is a bigger battle that transcends those errors.

The alternative is the leaders of every other power who were equally cruel BUT ALSO fighting for everything I hate and loathe.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes Ernst Roehm therefore Hitler kills everyone just for no reason.

Hitler's final meltdown in 1945 proved he lost his mind and was willing to execute anyone for the most ludicrous reason. It's ironic, but even Hitler despised himself, since he got himself killed in the end...

He was still fighting for what I consider what is right and just and that is a bigger battle that transcends those errors. The alternative is the leaders of every other power who were equally cruel and disgusting BUT ALSO fighting for everything I hate and loathe.

It's more rational to accept that every leader back then had flaws or lead to terrible outcomes. But Hitler stood ontop the pinnacle of failure. You want to believe what he was fighting for was "right". Well it also meant millions of other Europeans died in that crossfire.

With the exception of perhaps Stalin and the Chinese Communists, none of the Allied leaders were looking to kill millions of their own people again once WW2 ended.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

none of the Allied leaders were looking to kill millions of their own people again once WW2 ended.

No of course not. Why kill their own people when there was a million or so Germans for the Allies to rape and murder after the war.

You want to believe what he was fighting for was "right". Well it also meant millions of other Europeans died in that crossfire.

Could have sworn there were other actors in that war.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Aktion T4 was only active for a couple years too and they didn't go around kidnapping people, they euthanised horrifically disabled, terminally ill etc people. The same kind of people who can get euthanised in Switzerland, the Netherlands etc today.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course and it's just another type of ghoulish fantasy people impose upon National Socialist Germany. Like it was just some horror show.

Meanwhile in modern Holland or Belgium -- can't remember which -- they'll pay for 'trans' people to mutilate themselves then when they inevitably feel depressed they euthanize them.

That's a real ghoulish hell on Earth but people like this guy would probably call it liberty.