Opinion: Nazi-supporters are anti-white

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Even with the benefit of hindsight what Hitler achieved was unimaginable. I doubt anyone even with perfect knowledge of the history could have replaced him and done more than he did, his brilliance was matched by a handful of people throughout history and you could realistically argue he's above all of them just due to his starting point and path to power and then how stacked the deck was against Germany when he got into power.

Which great man throughout history came from an equal or worse personal position than him? Which great man transformed their state equally as he did in the same period of time? Which great man had to deal with the same ridiculous conditions against him and still persevered (sanctions, debts, 4 world empires ready to crush you etc) to become as powerful as the reich was? If you take the whole context of Hitler and compare him to the greatest men of history it's honestly hard to argue that any of them were even his equal let alone his superior. Imagine if Hitler was able to be the son of a king and tutored by Aristotle. Swap Hitler with any great man of history, which of them outperforms him?

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    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    This is only the first element. Hitler built the NSDAP with zero elite and financial support, Stalin took a position in the Bolsheviks that was funded and organised by jewry. Idk about Genghis' situation but I doubt his situation was comparable to Germany's surrounding by the 4 strongest states in the world that all wanted to destroy his country before he even got into power.

    It's the whole collection of circumstances that makes Hitler's accomplishments standout. Rags to riches, built a ground up revolution from mass popularity rather than military, fixed a whole country that was in massive poverty, all whilst 4 empires that controlled the entire planet wanted every German dead and were pretty open about it with sanctions, pacts that made within Europe and whatnot.

    [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Swap Hitler with any great man of history, which of them outperforms him?

    Clearly he was an intelligent man, but the circumstances were very good for him. Germany was ready for a leader and the people were motivated and desperate. The Germanic people are just of higher stock, making good advisors and soldiers.

    Napoleon might have done just as good or perhaps better if instead of France he had a united Germany, rather than fighting the Germanics (Prussia and Britain) on his way to Russia, which they both lost in. Hitler made very bad military mistakes towards the end of the war. Rating their skill as a military commander, Napoleon was better IMO.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Take the whole context not just one part.

    • Homelessness

    • Getting into power through a grassroots populist revolution with ZERO elite support

    • fixing the country's poverty and making it the world's envy within a few years whilst being sanctioned by world finance

    • coming close to defeating 4 world empires that controlled almost the entire planet

    I'm not saying no one could outperform him at some specific point in his life when he's already accomplished insurmountable tasks. I'm saying no one could outperform him if they had to go from the beginning of his struggle. Swap Napoleon and Hitler from birth and see what's up. Hitler managed to accomplish everything with zero mentorship and favourable conditions, Napoleon was already nobility.

    [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Swap Napoleon and Hitler from birth and see what's up.

    Hitler was probably better overall, since I don't know very much about Napoleon's diplomatic and administrative skill, only that he would have been a more impressive military commander.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Napoleon could of had usury and debt with peace or war.