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[–]Jacinda[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't disagree. Our desire not to be replaced in our own countries doesn't depend on what did or did not happen to the Jews in German occupied Poland almost eighty years ago.

I posted this because I was frustrated at what was happening to an elderly lady — I have no idea if her ideas are true or not but she shouldn't have to be jailed for expressing an opinion about an historical event.

Posting it anywhere else would (paradoxically) get me banned for anti-semitism. This is one of the reason holocaust material gets posted here — not that people have a particularly anti-Jewish animus.

I need to go to bed so excuse my truncated reply. Here is an article from Counter Currents which discusses the Holocaust. It doesn't deny it happened but this paragraph explains why it excises so many on in the alt-right.

Counter Currents:

But there is another way to look at this, a way that the Dissident Right should not overlook. Ron Unz, by defending the right of Holocaust deniers to deny, is standing up against Jewish power, specifically, liberal diaspora Jewish power. He recognizes how destructive and insidious it is and wishes to shake two of its most fundamental pillars: the concept that Jews are always the victim and the concept that Jews are morally superior to white gentiles. If it can be proven that the Holocaust was an elaborate smear job, similar to what the Russo-Jewish Committee did to Tsarist Russia in the late nineteenth century, then much of the support and credit Jews get from gentiles would evaporate and their influence would begin to dwindle. This is why the majority of the hardcore Holocaust deniers appear on the Right: the outcome of a fraudulent Holocaust undermines the power of their enemies.

You can find more articles by clicking on the #holocaust-revisionism and #the-holocaust tag.

Here is a video of Johnathan Bowden in his raspy voice explaining why it is necessary to "step over" the holocaust.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Our desire not to be replaced in our own countries is completely unrelated to what happened to The Jews in German occupied Poland.

This is just objectively wrong and needs thinking about.

I actually worked on a paper at Uni which was a comparative study of attitudes towards immigration in former Axis countries. I focused mainly on Japan and Germany and what I found was that in over half the stories out of hundreds I sampled German war guilt, the Holocaust and the Jewish plight during WW2 was invoked to buttress a pro-migrant position.

In Japan, as you can probably guess, I barely could find a handful of references to their WW2 experience that related to immigration -- and they were mostly in press that is published in Japan but actually consumed by English speakers.

In other words the German experience in WW2 and the Holocaust is utterly central to the German desire not to resist being replaced and is so powerfully linked in the German mind that discussion of the Jewish experience in WW2 always follows the discussion of immigration. You can notice this pattern outside of Germany as well.

[–]Jacinda[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is just objectively wrong and needs thinking about.

I typed my original comment, posted, thought better of it, and edited it. You caught my original post.

I actually worked on a paper at Uni which was a comparative study of attitudes towards immigration in former Axis countries. I focused mainly on Japan and Germany and what I found was that in over half the stories out of hundreds I sampled German war guilt, the Holocaust and the Jewish plight during WW2 was invoked to buttress a pro-migrant position

It sounds like an interesting paper confirming something most people have intuited. Did you ever get a chance to publish it? I imagine The Occidental Observer or Counter Currents would probably be interested in a summary. I always think it is sad when scholarship doesn't find a wider audience.

Mass immigration is absolutely disastrous here in NZ as elsewhere and you are correct if anyone complains eventually the N-word comes up.

I am extremely interested in Japan's recent revision of its immigration laws. I often think I would like to visit there and write something on the topic. There must be Japanese people who are concerned about the situation.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I typed my original comment, posted, thought better of it, and edited it. You caught my original post.

I hate when that happens!

[–]Lugger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't disagree. Our desire not to be replaced in our own countries doesn't depend on what did or did not happen to the Jews in German occupied Poland almost eighty years ago.

I posted this because I was frustrated at what was happening to an elderly lady — I have no idea if her ideas are true or not but she shouldn't have to be jailed for expressing an opinion about an historical event.

I absolutely agree with you.

My comment wasn't directed at you, I just wanted to ask the question in a (somewhat) related thread.

[–]Jacinda[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw that and appreciate the discussion.