The reason I went from being a liberal to joining the alt/dissident right

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[–]Mr9to5 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

But I don’t think Jewish intelligence is the problem. Many Asian and Middle Eastern groups have high IQs. Many of these groups are also ethnocentric. They present job competition, sure. But that’s different.

The problem is Jewish culture fosters a very warped morality. I was pretty philo-semitic when I was young. I had to learn the hard way. Jews who’ve been bathed in Jewish culture - say from New York or the Jewish private school network - think a certain way. You’re going to get hurt by them if you don’t recognize it and put up your guard.

They are competitive to an extreme because their culture is highly materialistic. Simple and plain. No IQ comparisons, it’s about who can keep up with the Joneses. They have no qualms even with knocking each other down to get ahead. Consequently, they “fake good” all the time and that leads to all kinds of shady business behaviors.

This would be messed up enough but not unusual outside the West. Where it gets to be a problem is their overt hostility to WASP presenting people, even when those WASPs are clearly from the lower class. They will never forget the snub to their social climbing behaviors that historically came from Protestants and Catholic elites. Consequently, screwing anyone over who looks related to those elites is totally acceptable to them. This happens on a macro and micro scale left and right. It’s really the foundation of many things in this society that are disguised as something else. They alternate between paranoia and unwarranted lashing out.

You need to read up on ancient Jewish culture. None of this is new. It ultimately traces back to a stew of superstitious nonsense from a supremacist religion, not an IQ test comparison. The “Sages” of the Talmud thought they were better than their neighbors because they kept a Sabbath and their neighbors didn’t. Because they were circumcised and their neighbors weren’t. That mythical Moses was one of them and not a Roman.

Mizrachi Jews are supposed to have much lower IQs but have figured into many equally questionable events, such as the opium trade in China. It’s a reoccurring civilizational pattern that’s the product of the same civilization’s dysfunctional nature.

[–]meatball4u[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You bring up some decent points, but Jewish intelligence is the pivotal factor in why the narrative is so skewed towards their views. Mizrachi Jews could be a drag on a society, but drug trading (like opium trading as you mention) does not require much intelligence to pull off. Blacks and especially Hispanics are quite good at running the drug trade, yet we know they are significantly stupider than Whites. To be able to pull off having 50%+ of university presidents as Jewish, you need to have high IQ. You would simply be laughed out otherwise. Blacks are notoriously ethno-centric, materialistic and unscrupulous, but they don't stand a chance at dominating narrative forming institutions. Jews have been through highly eugenic selection pressures in terms of intelligence for centuries, we can do something similar for our own race if we get in power.

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be able to pull off having 50%+ of university presidents as Jewish, you need to have high IQ.

Nobody is saying they are stupid. They just arent the evil geniuses you seem to think they are. The US also probably got a lot of their best and brightest as their elite emptied out of Europe during the rise of the Nazis. The same with the later stages of the cold war when their elite left the Soviet Union for the US due to not being allowed to dominate there. This would explain why Ashkenazis in the US seem to perform better on IQ tests than their Israeli counterparts, who appear to be completely average.

[–]meatball4u[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In Israel, addition to Ashkenazi Jews, there are large groups of non-Ashkenazi Jews, Palestinians, as well as various small minorities. Also, many of the supposed Ashkenazi Jews in Israel are from countries such as Russia and are (according to Israeli demographers) often not actually Ashkenazi Jews or only so partially. This since many people have posed as Jews for reasons such as being able to emigrate from the Soviet Union. This has caused the measured average IQ of Israeli "Ashkenazi Jews" to be lower than the measured average IQ of non-Israeli Ashkenazi Jews. - Richard Lynn. The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement. 2011