Why we are in this situation?

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[–]marc_gee 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

It is some great writing but I still think you're making the mistake the altright always makes, giving non-jews too much pass for what they have done and continue to do.

"White men have simply been betrayed and conned. Every upstanding person that would have informed you of the con was bought off, silenced with intimidation or killed. "

What about every non-jew politician and celebrity for the past 60 years? They could have informed us. White politicians weren't subject to intimidation. And if they were all bought off does that excuse them?

Even today the thousands of non-jews who could save us continue with the same hostile mindsets.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

giving non-jews too much pass for what they have done and continue to do

Maybe. On the other hand if we put to much blame on our own we just fall into the trap of endless infighting.

What about every non-jew politician and celebrity for the past 60 years?

This is something I want to get into in part two. The first generation of subversion certainly had genuine traitors. Today though many politicians and celebrities don't even know they are betraying themselves and their volk. How many liberals do you know that can intimately speak about about the history and goals of liberalism? How many of the truly realize the ultimate aims and goals of liberalism and progressivism? Are these folks really our enemies or simply caught up in the web? My grudge is with the spider not his prey.

They could have informed us.

Can someone who has really invested in utopian ideals really 'inform' you of the dangers of the person that created it? No cult member will really tell you about the dangers of the leader because they are so enchanted the don't really see the shortcomings. I see most liberals this way. In fact their hate towards 'racists' is just an impulse to pull the community together and work as a team. A noble trait when not being wasted on Africans and helping weak men cut make a fake penis out of their forearm skin.

Our goal needs to be re-orienting our people towards the archetypes and heros they instinctualy crave; and the time for saving them is getting shorter and shorter. We stopped defining ourselves so someone else did it for us. We simply need to stop this and create a rebirth of identity.

White politicians weren't subject to intimidation

Some were, and some were bought off.

And if they were all bought off does that excuse them?

No. I think the ones that were bought off deserve their fate. However, there's nuance here and there's a spectrum.

Even today the thousands of non-jews who could save us continue with the same hostile mindsets.

True but many minds are changing. Look at local everyday conversations. Look at online exchanges. There's a shift of consciousness. Only after a perception change can action take place.

[–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see most liberals this way. In fact their hate towards 'racists' is just an impulse to pull the community together and work as a team.

They hate (white)"racists" for the same reason people in 17th century Salem Massachusetts claimed to hate witches. Fear, a desire for increased social status and power, and brainwashing.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are correct that a lof of white elites are as guilty as the Jewish elite, maybe even more so because they are essentially traitors. Why this treasonous behavior and callousness towards other whites is so prevalent among this elite is something I'll never quite understand. Maybe some of it has to do with inherent Christian dislike and distrust of the wealthy, which stands in contrast to the Jewish view that the wealthy are leaders and champions of the tribe. Wealthy whites were basically pariahs and outcasts in the christian community. As Jesus said, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a wealthy man to pass into the kingdom of heaven. So right off the bat wealthy whites were viewed as evil and untrustworthy and disliked, and this was probably reciprocated. At least that might help partially explain it, it definitely doesnt explain why virtually all of them are traitors.

It might also just be that Jews ethnocentrism is so strong and so tied to their ability to accumulate wealth by helping each other out that their wealthy elite will always retain a sense of loyalty and duty to the tribe, where as white billionaires are basically lone wolfs that got rich solely by being lucky, greedy, smart, ruthless and intelligent.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe some of it has to do with inherent Christian dislike and distrust of the wealthy, which stands in contrast to the Jewish view that the wealthy are leaders and champions of the tribe. Wealthy whites were basically pariahs and outcasts in the christian community. As Jesus said, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a wealthy man to pass into the kingdom of heaven. So right off the bat wealthy whites were viewed as evil and untrustworthy and disliked, and this was probably reciprocated. At least that might help partially explain it, it definitely doesnt explain why virtually all of them are traitors.

Calvinism which was where Puritanism comes from and forms the dominant worldview of the entire anglosphere is the inverse of this. Your wealth is a signal of how good you are according to god.

[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well that might help explain why the anglosphere is so philosemitic even as Jews shit all over them every chance they get. They view their wealth as divine reward? That's definitely not how Christianity as im familiar with it works.

So what explains pretty much every white billionaire I can think of being a treasonous white hating cuck, or at best completely indifferent to other whites? Can anyone think of any exceptions? Even wealthy whites that have more money than they could ever spend and can say whatever they want and give money away to whatever they want, still act afraid of white identity or solidarity.

Meanwhile just about every wealthy jew I can think of lavishes money on Jewish causes, both overt and covert. The contrast couldnt be more profound.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

about every non-jew politician and celebrity for the past 60 years?

Coercion. Carrot and stick coercion. Washington is a bribery and blackmail based town. Hollywood is run by and for Jews, that's blatantly clear.

[–]marc_gee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

But we can see bribery and blackmail doesn't excuse non-jew politicians. With youtube, bitchute, social media, etc., wealthy non-jew celebrities could inform us despite jews. They might not receive work anymore but many don't need money. They could also donate anonymously.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree but it takes bravery and certainty and they will try to destroy anyone that speaks out even mildly about Jews or is pro-White in any mild way, see Steve King and Mel Gibson and Gary Oldman.

[–]president_camacho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's amazing how quickly they destroyed Steve King. He was instantly stripped of his committees and then quickly replaced during the first primary he faced despite being a popular long time incumbent, and this despite him not even really naming them. It showed how rotten and bought off the GOP is.

After this election that party needs to be destroyed, and I only say after this election because of the supreme court, since Ginsburg appears to be heading towards the light and another justice even slightly sympathetic to nationalists and immigration hardliners could be crucial for organizing ourselves right before the US collapses.

[–]president_camacho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

How are they going to inform us when Jews effectively control all means of mass communication now? There is no bypassing their filter on any large scale.

[–]marc_gee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Some places like Bitchute allow it. If a Brad Pitt started uploading videos about it, it would have worldwide attention.

[–]president_camacho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It would have worldwide attention for one news cycle before he was cancelled and vanished from the public eye forever, except for him to be ridiculed and trashed by the media more. The story would instantly be how Pitt turned out to be a Nazi, and that's all most people would ever hear, they would never air anything controversial he said in full and it would be memory holed by google.

[–]marc_gee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But the point is the media couldn't prevent Pitt from reaching people, Bitchute and Gab wouldn't delete him and it would still be viral. Because of the internet, the elite could inform us despite what jews want.

[–]president_camacho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wealthy elites got to be wealthy elites by being ambitious narcissists, so sacrificing their careers probably isnt in the cards. As for an act of defiance going viral. Because the elites control social media and everything popular on the internet, it wouldnt have a chance to go viral. Nothing goes viral without the elites consent these days. What would go viral are the denunciations against whatever nazi dares criticize the system and speak truth. It's all about manufacturing consent, which is why phoney grassroots websites like reddit are now such a big focus of their escalating propaganda war.

[–]marc_gee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bitchute and other places already allow talk of jews. After media denunciations everyone would have to go watch the videos. Many celebrities are already set for life financially.