What term best describes your ideology, and why?

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[–]Mr9to5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I’m an American but I’ve always thought of myself in terms of the paradigms of British Nationalism. I like speaking in terms of analogous organizations because speaking of only ideals can be ambiguous. I started out as someone who would have supported an American version of BNP (ie a populist nationalist), spent many years as a radical traditionalist elitist after growing frustrated with the limitations of populism - someone who would’ve liked to participate in something akin to NF Political Soldier. Now, I’m more of a basic 3P type person, perhaps interchangeable with an NF member or an NPD member in Germany. I know my beliefs probably can’t win here but I wouldn’t mind networking with similar people to try to change things at the local level. The key parts of my worldview are the “Social” aspect, solidarity with people I consider like me and the Discipline or “Elitism” aspect, wanting my People to hammer away at themselves to be the best. I consider this the best synthesis of the radical traditionalist and other cadre models and the various Social world views, Left and Right.

The only political group I’ve belonged to has been the Constitution Party but I get the impression they are easing off immigration and going more libertarian, I don’t like it at all. Typical American garbage.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You know, when you speak of things like 3P, NPD, NF, those are not abbreviations that have meaning outside certain places. The Internet is worldwide.

[–]Mr9to5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, I’ve indicated which countries I’m referring to. It’s still going to require some knowledge of Nationalist history or at least a cursory reading of the Wikipedia pages to digest it. National Front UK and NPD Germany are both things you should read up on to get a sense of our history, to make it more explicit. NF achieved such a significant breakthrough that it briefly was the fourth biggest party in the UK and laws have literally been changed to try to ban NPD. 3P is used within this board to mean Third Position.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Just naming them is enough. Do YOU know the abbreviations of all the political parties worldwide, where ABC can ONLY mean this or that? I don't think so. Very few, if any, people do.

I know about the National Front in the UK, and the Nationalist Party of Germany (I'm still not sure what the P stands for, you haven't said, but whatever). My point is, we can know the broad outlines of what these parties are, without necessarily associating abbreviations to each political party of every foreign nation with perfect recall. That would be useless mind-clutter.

[–]Mr9to5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I can’t imagine that there’s a tool on the Internet that you could use to solve this problem besides ranting at people to fix it for you...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the correct way to have a conversation is to sift through thousands of search results for every expression one is unsure of, and communication is NOT about expressing oneself in such a way that the reader understands. Got it.