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[–]PRSanon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Seems to me that he's a mix between actual white advocacy and Dugin's 4th position "based third world, fuck the west" bullshit.

http://archive.vn/9j0cl

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Dude I'm not reading some 8000 word essay from an unknown author. Give me a summary. Also Duginism has nothing to do with the Alt-Lite so my original point remains true.

[–]PRSanon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, he's not alt-lite, but I think it's a misnomer to call him much of a White racialist because of the Dugin-like shit he'll say. It's more contrarian than actual white advocacy.

A quick summary is really just what I said in the previous comment, the idea of "based third world, fuck the West". Being against the modern West is correct, but I would make the distinction that the modern West is essentially against Western Civilization, seen from the destruction of tradition, mass migration, etc. They are two different things and you shouldn't suck off Islam, China, or Russia just because they're not Western.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Being against the modern West is correct, but I would make the distinction that the modern West is essentially against Western Civilization, seen from the destruction of tradition, mass migration, etc. They are two different things and you shouldn't suck off Islam, China, or Russia just because they're not Western.

Hilarious how you simultaneously shit talk him whilst taking the same position as him. Lightswitch brain retard

[–]PRSanon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They seem to not advocate for White people, but for anything against the modern West. That's why I brought up sucking off Islam, China, and Russia because they're not the modern West. That's what I don't like because it's counterproductive to praise mediocre governments that are not our allies anyway.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Please end this dumb "duganism Islamo-marxist" slander. This only started because certain crypto-lolbert snowflakes (hence the term racist liberals) got mad that Keith Woods, Ed Dutton and Richard Spencer talked favourably about aspects of Islam and criticised capitalism (from a right-wing POV) on their streams and individual channels. Are people not allowed to critique the "West" (read: the Enlightenment, anglo-liberalism, Western progressivism, etc) and have intellectual discussions on controversial topics in this movement outside of "BLACK MAN BAD" and "kultural markizum!!!"?

[–]PRSanon 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure they can, but it's absolutely idiotic to praise China if you care about White people, especially of used as an example against Capitalism. They are certainly not an ally, and a shit government as well. Just use Germany as an example for nationalizing industries, it's much better and pretty much exactly what we mean.

Not a great idea to praise Islam much either when they are told to either kill or convert all infidels. I don't see anything wrong with respecting how they are against degeneracy, but they're terrible at everything else and very much detrimental to our people. The only good Muslim is one who picks and chooses what to follow from their religion.

I think they're forgetting about white advocacy and just saying literally anything that's against the modern globalist West, whether it's helpful or harmful to White people is irrelevant.

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    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Is any of what we believe feasible in the current environment? Be honest with yourself. So fucking what if Spencer does have a grandiose vision of what he wants. He's a big brain type who thinks big and long term. How is that a problem for you?

    Do you honestly think if you proposed whatever Dissident Right vision you have for society that those same pejoratives wouldn't be hurled at you?

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's another totally stupid and worthless distinction that has infected the movement and it's so tiresome. Been seeing giant twitter debates between people like me who actually respect Baathism, Iran and Assad and people who just automatically think that if you do that you're also praising heart eating Saudi Salafists at the same time or are some 'third worldist'. Just another stupid, petty debate that divides us.