Why Liberals and Atheists are More Intelligent

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[–]cybitch[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You should not strive for - evolutionarily speaking - some sort of utopian equality but for efficiency and intergenerational power accumulation.

Generally the power these days doesn't seem to be in the hands of white people anymore though...

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It seems the comment you replied to went over your head.

Men and women are two sides to that coin of generating intergenerational power.

They have to work together to do that.

Do you think at least some of the feminist agenda has contributed to preventing that generation?

Men need to do more on their own behalf too, but everyone is really only in charge of themselves.

[–]cybitch[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see how "the feminist agenda" could possibly prevent this. The only thing men have ever, throughout history, contributed to child rearing is wealth. Now women can substitute and be independent which makes things better - children can now be kept away from the violent element that commits the vast majority of homicides and battery on not only strangers, but on their own families as well. Which would you rather have for the future generation - childhoods where their mothers and them are beaten but can't leave because of a lack of financial resources, or mothers with the freedom to stay or leave at their discretion.

[–]roguecanine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty courageous of you to go to debate on this sub. But imo it's not possible for women to debate with alt-right/conservative men, because one side would never be arguing in good faith. You see, beneath all their big words about Society, Law, Order lies one simple truth - they want women chained for no other reason than to feel better about themselves (the type of people who need to bring others down to feel tall, vs getting higher through their own achievements) and to have easier access to sex (sex, that's what it's always all about for men) - which can't get any easier when women are kept 'barefoot and pregnant'. That's their ultimate utopia and they would find ways to justify it. They argue in bad faith, because they already have the end result in mind and it's about rationalizing why that end result is good vs finding the best solution through debate.

Which would you rather have for the future generation - childhoods where their mothers and them are beaten but can't leave because of a lack of financial resources, or mothers with the freedom to stay or leave at their discretion

That's the thing - for all their screams about the children, about the fetuses, about the Fatherless Young MenTM (funny how it's always about the young men), they don't actually care about any of that - they only pretend to because it's another argument that helps to justify their authoritarian utopia world.