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[–]sexpenis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

How does any of this relate to white people giving up resources not being beneficial to them?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I already addressed that and you're ignoring it. We aren't actually giving anything up, just sharing without racial discrimination.

[–]sexpenis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

No, you literally just made a rant about the working class that has nothing to do with the topic. You just blamed everything on the wealthy without actually analyzing the problems in full and assumed a position that, ironically, most wealthy people and companies share. It's like when an anarchist simply blames everything on the system instead of understanding how things actually work

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I was just making fun of the alt right for being total puppets for the wealthy when you think you're so woke.

[–]sexpenis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

total puppets for the wealthy

Said the guy whose ideas are supported by every big company.

Name one company that actually supports the alt-right, you'll find out there are basically none, since everything is controlled by the exact same group of people. The left on the other hand...

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

America has abysmal labor protection, negligible public services, ridiculously predatory corporations and business practices, a government that has essentially devolved into an oligarchy, and third world levels of wealth inequality. Meanwhile you smoothbrains still vote GOP because the left won't let you be racist.

Your contribution to politics is based on what you vote for, not what you want. The alt right votes for corporate oligarchy.

[–]sexpenis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This has nothing to do with the fact that all of those evil companies support the left, but ok.

Yeah, I won't deny America has become bullshit over the years, but the same thing could be said more or less every nation in the world, so it's not just that country's problem, but a global situation.

Communists and lefties like you fail to see what the real reason for all of this happening really is and what it's real effects are. All of those things you mention are caused by one only group of people that has control over the government, media and companies worldwide, yet you refuse to see that and fall into the the trap they have created. You think you're the woke rebels but in reality everything you believe in has been designed by the exact same people you "hate".

And for what it seems, you've got no idea of what the alt-right/third position really is about, since you believe we still care about voting for one party or the other, comparing us to cuckservatives and trump supporters. No, we don't think any of the parties is good, since they are run by the same people and nothing they say should be taken seriously

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah I'm sure you're just the wokest in all the land, but the way that translates to politics is that you vote GOP because they have you convinced the left hates white people.

[–]sexpenis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I literally just told you no party's opinion matters, yet you still asume we vote GOP. This is why we don't debate people like you, you simply won't listen even when facts are right on your face.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't have to play this game with you, we both know what an alt righter's ballot is going to look like in November.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Fortune 500:

  • Anti-white to break up solidarity between workers

  • Open borders to drive down wages

  • Push social 'progressivism' because it increases consumerism

  • Global technocapitalist network completely destroying the planet with movement of capital and labour, eternal trade and travel. They attempt to mask this wholly evil anti-nature system with fake 'green capitalism' as a totally cynical money grab and way of increasing total energy output and keeping the gravy train going

Us:

  • Pro-white to increase solidarity between workers

  • Anti-immigration to bring up wages

  • Push social conservatism to increase mental health

  • Question the existence of the technoindustrial capitalist world order altogether, with huge numbers of us leaning towards decomplexificiation and pulling out of the global economy altogether

Where exactly are we puppets for the wealthy? We're oppressed because we consistently oppose everything about their agenda whereas you on the other hand are in total agreeance with the elite consensus and spend your free time attacking us because you think we might threaten your decadent bourgeois lifestyle.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

America has abysmal labor protection, negligible public services, ridiculously predatory corporations and business practices, a government that has essentially devolved into an oligarchy, and third world levels of wealth inequality. Meanwhile you smoothbrains still vote GOP because the left won't let you be racist.

Your contribution to politics is based on what you vote for, not what you want. The alt right votes for corporate oligarchy.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Thought so, you can't answer my comment that reveals you as the neoliberal CAPITALIST fraud you are so you default to making up bullshit about us supporting those Jew-slave traitors. Total nonsense.

The Democratic party is a CAPITALIST party too btw, if you vote for the Republicans or the Democrats you are supporting the exact same capitalist oligarchy you're pretending to be against.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Democrats are trying to regulate capitalism and uplift the working class, in addition to upholding civil liberties against right-wing authoritarianism. The GOP is trying to pillage the public sector and distract you with race-baiting. I didn't say you support them, I said you vote for them because they have you convinced the democrats hate white people.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Joe Biden is a known shill who has worked his entire career to enslave poor people to credit card debt. Who is he trying to uplift except for his banker buddies doling out credit cards to prey on poor people with unscrupulous interest rates?

You're a shill for capitalists just like anyone who supports the GOP. They're identical, they're all friends, they have the same donors and they enact the same policies. Anyone who claims to be an anti-capitalist that doesn't want to see both parties reduced into dust is a swindler.

No idea why you keep bringing up the GOP as if the Dems vs GOP is actually a real thing. They're both just capitalists. The Dems push hard on capitalist social policy, the GOP on capitalist economic policy. It doesn't matter who gets into office you always get the exact same agenda with the other half that the people actually voted for left out. You're a retard if you actually think any of that spectacle is real.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't say you support them, I said you vote for them because they have you convinced the democrats hate white people.

Again completely making shit up. How would you know who I vote for? I'm not even American first of all, secondly I have never voted for the conservative party and never will. I have voted once, for the British National Party which was an anti-capitalist party. No idea why you think everyone is a retard like you that buys into the false dichotomy set up by the capitalist system. Anyone who votes for either of the 2 big parties in their countries is a retard with no exceptions.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"How would you know who I vote for?"

Because of the million shill threads complaining about how the left hates white people.