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[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

This is still a bit much :

Up to 100 day passes per year will be offered to residents and businesses affected by the changes, enabling them to travel through the filters without penalty. A spokesperson for the council explained: "Traffic filters have been part of Oxford’s Transport Strategy since 2015, and are a key tool to reduce traffic congestion in Oxford. Traffic filters are not designed to stop people from driving private vehicles.

"Everywhere in the city will still be accessible by car, although some private car drivers may need to use a different route during the operating hours of the traffic filters [so, basically, not all parts of the city will be accessible to people driving their own car at all times.]. Vehicles going through the traffic filters will be monitored by automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras, not by electronic gates or any other physical barriers [this part is still creepy. why monitor anything? if you break the rules does your scs get down-voted? seriously.].

"When they are operating, private cars will not be allowed through without a permit. All other vehicles including buses, coaches, taxis, vans, mopeds, motorbikes and HGVs will be allowed at all times."

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They're basically punishing people for owning cars. Forcing people to use public transit or ride a smaller vehicle (like a moped or a bike), if they want to access every possible route whenever they wish.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Yes this policy alone is a little bit shit but it wouldn't take much to transition Oxfordshire into a cycling haven like the Netherlands. It's very flat. If the council are serious they could easily get this kind of thing sorted. To be fair Oxfordshire is already extremely cyclist-y, I don't think this policy really changes much.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I'm not against cities being more bike-friendly. That's great. I hate sharing the road with flocks of cyclists. They need their own separate bike paths next to the car routes.

But this is basically punishing people for driving their own cars. That's weird.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

I don't really see the problem, if there's good public transport infrastructure, the city is walkable and cycleable etc then that would be preferable anyway. It's the opposite which is miserable, being forced to have to own a car, being stuck in traffic etc.

[–]TemporarilyDeceased 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If the city is designed so that walking and cycling are preferable, then why do they need to restrict the ability of their residents to drive when they choose to?

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Obviously there's still congestion because car manufacturers, construction companies, bankers etc make trillions to enforce a car-centric world.

But look at Oxfordshire, do you know what kind of city it is? It's an ELITE area (home to the most elite university in the UK), they don't want the same enslavement to machines they enforce on the masses to be where they live. They want it nice and peaceful, no pollution etc. The plebeian masses can deal with the cancer, asthma etc from cars, industry etc. They have their nice flat city where everyone can walk and cycle around, and they limit cars to keep it nice.

This is about elites keeping their area nice, distinct from the worker bees who live in spiritual wastelands. Do you understand?

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not a city, but a county. You don't seem to know that much yourself...

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The gates are obviously going to be in the city you thick fuck. Why would they be closing off random empty country lanes and shit? Lolbert attempt to use his brain challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But look at Oxfordshire, do you know what kind of city it is?

Hey SHITHEAD. This is what YOU wrote­.

The american equivalent would be: "Look at Massachusets, do you know what kind of city it is?" Do you realize how thoroughly moronic that makes you??? I'll keep "not using my brain" instead of, like you, being what, in full possession of all your wits? Drooling chimp.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But this is still making the choice to own and drive your own car a lot more of a pain in the neck. It's not the same as making car ownership illegal, but by punishing people for driving their own cars, you're passive-aggressively tightening the vice grip on car drivers. That's not right. This is one step closer to the kind of public monitoring and punishment system that seems to be trying to roll itself out all over.

If I own a car I should be free to drive it. It's my headache to deal with if I get stuck in traffic. By saying I can't drive home directly but have to drive 20 minutes out of my way because the environment, that's too much control. Everyone is free to get a bike, or take a bus.

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True story - over 20 years ago I applied for a job with a local council in the UK. During the interview they specifically told me that part of my role, and the council's vision, was to make private car ownership difficult, expensive and, if possible, worse than using public transport.

It's the only job interview of my life that I walked out of.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That is absolutely bizarre. I'm glad you walked out of that one. What a "vision"! And this was 20 years ago... Did they give any reason? Just being jerks and making sure people owned as little as possible and had no real freedom of movement?

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They didn't really give a reason, just the goal of shifting the public out of their own cars and onto public transport. They seemed surprised I was not already onboard with the idea.

Even back then I was vaguely aware of 'Agenda 30' or 'Agenda 21'. I now know 21 is part of 30, and yeah, Alex Jones may be a nutcase and a blowhard, but he's right about a lot of stuff, and his title 'Prison Planet' was spot on.

[–]Bigs 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You don't see the problem with taking away people's freedom to move around?

Fukwit.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's traffic control. Take a bus. Walk. You must get really upset at stop signs

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I see the problem more with making people slaves to machines that need constant maintenance, upkeep, repair, fuelling etc that are restricted to designated pathways whose only purpose is to make governments and billionaires more money while turning people into spiritual bees mindlessly serving techno-capital.

You are very deep into the matrix, so far that you love being enslaved to it. There is a better world where you can exist without needing a car, like our ancestors did for thousands of years until capitalists (and communists) decided to enslave people to the machine for their own benefit.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You will own nothing and we will be happy.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

cope, slave

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And there you reveal your true colors, as one of them.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't see car ownership as slavery, though. I see it as freedom! I can drive to the next city, across the country, or to the store without having to "check in" with anyone, or with the government. I'm responsible for my own ride. I have to drive it carefully, fill the tank, and check out any weird noises, lights, or smells. If anything, car ownership teaches people responsibility and gives them freedom to move around. I don't have to flash my ID, scan a QR code, or download an app to use my vehicle.

And if there's an emergency, I can drive someone to the hospital on my own. No need to call for the police or an ambulance. There are incidents where the police are called for medical emergencies they don't know how to handle, they panic, and shoot someone. If I could have just driven my epileptic or diabetic relative to the hospital on my own, that could have been avoided. Cars give people that freedom, and force them to take care of their own vehicle, instead of relying on the government for a ride. There's nothing wrong with public transport, of course, but having a car teaches you to budget, value the vehicle, and take care of something that's on you.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I 'can' exist without my truck, my car, my motorbike and my sailing yacht - but I don't fucking want to.

Petroleum and the printing press are what set humanity free, which is exactly why the elite want to deny us cheap energy and free speech