Germans scientists say that Vitamin D increases the immune system by 3-5 times and is better than any vaccine.

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[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

because what he's saying isn't plausible.

Are you a scientist? No. Then stop contradicting the experts. They tell us the truth.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's worth noting that my two links are both more recent than the youtube video, so the scientific information contained would be more current.

But back to the "expert". Is your interpretation of "The whole immune system would become measurably stronger by a factor of 3 to 5 times" that primary immune responses such as fever are "3 to 5 times" stronger?

And when a fever is "3 times stronger" does that mean to you that where a fever would elevate your temperature by 2 degrees, it would instead be elevated by 6 degrees?

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Non-scientists doubting scientists is anti-intellectual. Please stop. This is a bannable offense on YouTube.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Non-scientists doubting scientists is anti-intellectual.

Trying to understand what the current state of the science is isn't anti-intellectual. Nor is calling out a particular scientist for going to the public with claims that aren't accepted by science.

This is a bannable offense on YouTube.

Spreading misinformation is bannable on youtube. Wondering what the fuck can possibly be meant by "The whole immune system would become measurably stronger by a factor of 3 to 5 times" isn't misinformation.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's the whole point! You're not qualified to make such a judgement!

Are you a scientist? No. You are not. So how do you get to judge statements of fact by scientists?

Even if you are a scientist, which you are not, are you in the same field? Are you a specialist in immunology? If not then YOU are the one spreading misinformation!

I don't get how this is so hard to process. It's straightforward and is a point that has been hammered home again and again over the past two years. You must have internalized it by now.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's the whole point! You're not qualified to make such a judgement!

By finding current and mainstream scientific opinion in the peer reviewed literature.

Supplementing Vitamin D has a small but positive effect on reducing acute respiratory infections. Something like 9% reduced incidence. That's due to vitamin D derivatives being important in multiple parts of the adaptive immune response.

It is also well short of the effect of the vaccines with respect to Covid-19.

The late Dr Prendergast in the youtube video, does not actually contradict that. He says that German scientists in the 1920s thought that the vitamin D supplementation was better than any vaccine was likely to be. But that is in the context of bird flu and the 1920s, and Germany between the wars.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm qualified to wonder what the fuck he's talking about, and know enough infectious diseases to know that "The whole immune system would become measurably stronger by a factor of 3 to 5 times" is bullshit.

No, you're not! You're not a scientist! You're not a subject matter expert. Shut up! You're lucky this is a free speech site. On any other corporate controlled platform you'd be silenced for spreading disinformation. And rightly so.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, you're not! You're not a scientist! You're not a subject matter expert.

The people who wrote this review are scientists. They find that the effect of supplementation by vitamin d on acute respiratory infections is a reduction by 1% to 16% in incidence (that's a 95% confidence interval). (Odds Ratio [OR] 0.91, 95% CI 0.84 to 0.99; P for heterogeneity 0.01)

That's not better than a vaccine

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're injecting YOUR opinions, which are NOT scientific opinions. You're not a scientist! You're not a subject matter expert! How is this so hard to understand‽ Shut up!

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're injecting YOUR opinions, which are NOT scientific opinions.

What opinion is mine and not a scientists, that you are objecting to?