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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

If he is really draining the swamp, then he would be doing a hell of a lot more to offer the American public proof of his actions and proof of these people/groups crimes.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

that's another logical fallacy. You've set a condition that you require for satisfaction, but it bears no relationship to the situation.

He's done a lot of very public work to 'drain the swamp', and very public work to improve the USA. Voting will show what the American Public thinks of his actions.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Voting is not a representation of consent or approval when the entire political apparatus has been compromised from the top down.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

fantastic. negate any mechanism to falsify your statement

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Mm. Logic dictates that people act in certain ways if they want certain goals. Trump has not acted in any way to actually "drain the swamp" because he's a fucking member of said swamp. You can play your college-level debate games with me, I will ignore them every time. If someone says "logical fallacy" or "Occam's Razor" I tend to wonder what their use is.

You hold opposing views in your mind, and you think both of them are true. That there is 1. a swamp that needs to be drained, and 2. that a member of the swamp is actually draining it. These things oppose each other, because no one who is involved with this nonsense will fix it. Would you drain the swamp if you were an alligator? No, it is your home, your bread and butter, and if anything, you'll find a way to make your home bigger. That is what you are actually seeing. Globalists from all over the world working together to consolidate power amongst themselves. You can't imagine such a thing, so you create heroic stories to fill the space of reality. Much like what people did with Obama.

I applaud your efforts. It must be so tiring.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Trump has not acted in any way to actually "drain the swamp" because he's a fucking member of said swamp.

You are using that belief to dismiss all actions that do not fit that belief. You've basically stated the parameters of debate and crippled it before we start.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You basically believe that a member of a gang will take down the gang from the inside. You are a wishful thinker hiding behind shitty logic.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You don't know what I believe. You are making false inferences

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Then tell me.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think u/bobbobbybob has done a very good job of expressing her beliefs on this matter. Where as your assumptions of the factions involved seem very one dimensional, cartoonish even.