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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Mm. Logic dictates that people act in certain ways if they want certain goals. Trump has not acted in any way to actually "drain the swamp" because he's a fucking member of said swamp. You can play your college-level debate games with me, I will ignore them every time. If someone says "logical fallacy" or "Occam's Razor" I tend to wonder what their use is.

You hold opposing views in your mind, and you think both of them are true. That there is 1. a swamp that needs to be drained, and 2. that a member of the swamp is actually draining it. These things oppose each other, because no one who is involved with this nonsense will fix it. Would you drain the swamp if you were an alligator? No, it is your home, your bread and butter, and if anything, you'll find a way to make your home bigger. That is what you are actually seeing. Globalists from all over the world working together to consolidate power amongst themselves. You can't imagine such a thing, so you create heroic stories to fill the space of reality. Much like what people did with Obama.

I applaud your efforts. It must be so tiring.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Trump has not acted in any way to actually "drain the swamp" because he's a fucking member of said swamp.

You are using that belief to dismiss all actions that do not fit that belief. You've basically stated the parameters of debate and crippled it before we start.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You basically believe that a member of a gang will take down the gang from the inside. You are a wishful thinker hiding behind shitty logic.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You don't know what I believe. You are making false inferences

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Then tell me.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think u/bobbobbybob has done a very good job of expressing her beliefs on this matter. Where as your assumptions of the factions involved seem very one dimensional, cartoonish even.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I love these little quips, you guys are very good at what you do.

He sounds like a Qanon supporter, as do most of the Trumpists on this site. It's funny, and I enjoy interacting with it. What about me is cartoonist?

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

cartoonish?

You have a world view where things are very simple, as you've told us. A swamp, and trump is part of that swamp. I'm assuming a homogenous swamp, as you've not implied otherwise.

You then tell me that I believe that your viewpoint is correct, and that I believe that Trump is going to drain the swamp that he is part of. You also tell me that I believe everything he says.

I tell you: I do not believe everything he says I think he has been draining the swamp.

Anyone with an ounce of sense would then ask me how I think he's doing it, what are the signs, mechanisms, and then I'd reply to that good faith debating by telling them, as I did when I was asked about the syria/cia/isis plays.

But you didn't. You just grabbed at the nearest resonance with your childish worldview and then acted as if you'd won.

So I stopped debating with you, since if you argue with a fool, then people soon lose the abilty to tell the difference, and just pointed out the flaws in your argument. In the vain hope that there was a spark of mind in there. That failed, so now I'm just insulting you at great length, confident that people with a shred of brains (and there's many on this site) will share a wry smile with me, a kind of nihilistic amusement at the sheer retardation that so exemplifies the world in general.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't take part in conversational games where there is winning or losing, but thank you for taking the time to explain how my views are "cartoonish"

You make many low blows against my intelligence and feel good in doing so, no? A nihilistic amusement? So, you don't believe everything he says, but you think he's draining the swamp? You've said that now in multiple places. I think it's silly that you would call someone a retard while also believing Trump is draining the swamp. But it's ok, silly people can exist without me having to get my panties all twisted up.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just so you are aware, I am the one who called your understanding of the factions involved one dimensional and cartoonish. Which is because, I don't believe you have any understanding of the CIA at all.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you asked. remember that.