That’s why there can be no losing for the West in Ukraine. To the Mackinderists at the top of the power structures in London, Washington D.C. and Brussels, losing Ukraine means losing the entire world, because they have this very-outdated view of world geography.

submitted by Chipit from tomluongo.me

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. There hasn't been peace in Ukraine for ages. Most of us remember this, but it seems that propaganda about the current incursion hopes you do not.

Casualties of East v West Ukrainian war "Russo-Ukrainian War"
Casualties from April 2014 to February 2022 (before the recent Russian intervention)
Ukrainian Civilians 3,404 killed
Foreign Civilians 306 killed
Western Ukrainian Government (US/EU recognized) [Ukrainians]
(Led by Zelenskyy as of 2019)
National forces 4,400 killed
National forces volunteers 4,647 killed
Eastern Ukrainian separatist rejecting the post-violent take-over government [Ukrainians]
(People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic and People's Militia of the Luhansk People's Republic)
Ukrainian civilian militias 6,517 killed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're right that there were deaths from the Russian sponsored invasion, including civilian deaths.

What there wasn't was attacks on Russian speaking civilians.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All the deaths listed were from Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians, before the Russian intervention. Most of us remember this, it was huge issue for a long time and many countries tried to get them to cease fire, but both sides would quickly break every agreement.

Yes, the Ukraine military is attacking East Ukraine, which is the Russian speaking Ukrainian area.

Actually, when you know the history of Ukraine, especially through the last two world wars and rebuilding after, then you know that a large portion of Ukraine is ethnic Russian-Ukrainians....the portion under constant conflict with the other half of Ukraine for the last decade, of which the US has been openly planning to help extinguish with talk of offensive attack, prompting Russia's concern about genocide.