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[–]Oyveygoyim 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Thanks jews. Won't be long before they start legalizing paedophilia.

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    [–]Oyveygoyim 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    What about the Quran? I see muslim men love them some child bridesas well

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      [–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      But you guys are still taking 9 year old girls as child brides.

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        [–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Child rape is child rape. You savages are just like jews only without the intelligence

        [–]antonios 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        shame on you

        [–]AriShekelsteinDDS 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        This is what “tolerance” has wrought.

        They’re going to legalize kid fucking. It’s only a matter of time.

        You know why this is true? Because members of a “pro pedo activist group”, who surely have names and addresses, feel safe operating in the open. Which means they are a protected class. And all western governments exist do the bidding of protected classes.

        [–]alladd 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        That's it. It's over. Blow up Germany. Dissect it and give it to neighboring countries.

        [–]Nintendogirl2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That could easily happen and I'm hoping it does with how extremely corrupt and evil the current government is. Germany has been split many times before. Obviously there's the East-West divide of the Cold War Era. But long before that Germany was several smaller countries before they were united in the 1871 German Empire under Prussia.

        [–]FurryMLG 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Get the sick bag...

        and the grenades

        [–]Clown_Chan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I fucking knew it would eventually happen.

        After all this lgbt and tranny shit, pedophilia will be legalized next soon.🤮

        [–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        The stated rationale is fine but it seems like they made zero effort to fix the stated problem.

        The rationale behind the downgrading of the crime to a misdemeanor included consideration for parents and teachers of children who download the content in order to inform law enforcement. “Such cases have occurred particularly frequently among parents and teachers of older children or young people who found child pornography on them and passed it on to other parents, teachers or the school management to inform them of the problem,” reads Article 1 of the bill.

        They also mention minors who possess pictures of themselves.

        Yes ok those are perfect exceptions. Why the go for the worst solution which is going for a blanket downgrade. Now true criminals don't get much consequence and innocent people still get punished.

        [–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

        I kinda agree, it does seem like a half-ass solution, at least as far as explained here. But I'm not sure I agree people who download pictures are "true criminals". I think the true criminals are the people who made them (assuming they weren't self-made). If the goal is to focus more on CP producers and less on people who just have the pictures, that would certainly be a good thing in my opinion. But on the other hand, I'm aware of the practical justification for possession being illegal, which is primarily to destroy the market for commercial production. I suppose there's some doubt about whether a misdemeanor still adequately accomplishes that goal.

        [–]x0x7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        It should. But you probably won't see much impact because it is only Germany. I have the misfortune of being an econ-nerd. You know, the dismal science that constantly tells you the opposite of what you want to hear. One problem is that any ban on a media is the same as two separate policies, one applies risk to paying parties, and another applies risk to non-paying parties. The issue is that applying risk to non-paying parties is identical to copyright policy from an economic point of view. The intent of policy is always irrelevant to economics. Same policy with different intent gives the same results. Demand doesn't actually coordinate with supply in media exchanges until you apply that risk. That's why copyright exists.

        But the deminishment of demand from Germany is not going to relinquish the demand from everywhere else so commercial production is going to continue.

        [–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Interesting take. So you're saying that to some extent, being it illegal actually helps producers by creating scarcity?

        [–]x0x7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Yes. Did you know that pornography in general is illegal in Russia. Yet somehow there is an entire industry of porn there. You can't ban media. If you try to ban racist media online you are going to get the same effect.

        D = VC * min(1,RF/VF)-RC. Demand for commercial media exchange equals (each variable taken as a distribution), the perceived value of the commercial media times the perceived risk of free consumption divided by the perceived value of free consumption capped at one minus the perceived risk of commercial consumption.

        Something to note is that a distribution minus a distribution is never zero. So no amount of applying risk to commercial consumers will ever dismantle the commercial market. This is why we've failed at the war on drugs and why prohibitions never work absolutely.

        But if the risk of free is zero then you effectively multiply the demand curve by zero. This is why when you analyze it you separate the prohibition into two separate policies. The first one multiplies the demand curve (with a limit) and the second one subtracts the demand curve. Of course multiplication and subtraction work different for distributions, but you'll have to take a math course and I can't cover that here.

        That formula is how you calculate the demand curve of media exchange. Remember the units of demand are dollars and its what actually motivates producers.

        That min(1,RF/VF) is called the window of coordination. It's a distribution but the more like 1 it is the more the market behaves like a typical commodities market. If for everyone RF>VF then you have a plain commodities market. The curve that division usually causes is a lot like (1/x-1)*p. Where p is |RF|/|VF|. So the window, once capped, is a lot like a box around 0,0,1,1 and the curve goes through that box. The more full that box is the more media behaves like physical exchanges. When the box is zero there is no market.

        [–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        So theoretically the most targeted attack on commercial production would be to legalize possession and free distribution, but keep it illegal to buy and sell. But needless to say, I don't think this would be palatable to most people, as rational as it might be. It also seems like current laws have already suppressed commercial production pretty successfully (much more so than with drugs, I'd say).

        But outside economy considerations, do wonder if the current approach is the best way of addressing what we (should) care about most: reducing the number of children molested. Chasing people who download CP doesn't directly save any kids, so is it a good use of resources? Do producers ever go unpunished because CP is so "toxic" that some people are afraid to report having seen it? That kind of thing.

        [–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Outlaw looking at the pics, demand will go down if pedos know they'll go to jail, all of the internet is under surveillance so law enforcement knows who they are. Set up traps and stings. Give them life in jail. Death penalty for those making the porn.

        [–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Even then, I'd go with a middle ground of it if it were possible: First CP possession (or any possession by a juvenile if the pictures are within 2 years of the juvenile's age) is a misdemeanor...but Any subsequent offense, throw the book at them. For a first offense, it's conceivable for one of the other reasons to be true, but after one it's clear they actually are pedos.

        [–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Yeah they're lying there as to the reason, laws already exist protecting those people.

        [–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        That part isn't clear according to the article. It seems like everyone gets swept up into the same law in Germany. It's like the "zero tolerance" policies everyone complains about in the US where administration and law enforcement ignore context because they don't want to deal with fallout from making any actual decisions.

        [–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        They're pro pedo cuz elites are pedo, pretty clear.

        [–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Seems like you could easily write the law to age limit a felony level crime to non-minors.

        [–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That and clearly if you took photos of yourself as a kid and forgot about them, like clearly the person isn't trying to distribute but had photos.

        [–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        That's like legalizing some murder because of the awkwardness of having to be the one who finds the body and calls 911.

        [–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Sir you possessed a dead body by finding it.