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[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Can we keep politics out of coffee for fuck's sake

[–]ClassroomPast6178 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think we are presently living in an age where a sizeable number of people, seemingly the majority of those born post-1990, cannot leave their politics/sex lives/mental issues at home and just do their job, instead they demand that every aspect of their life reflect those things in a way that is alien to most people born pre-1989.

They also demand that universities and employers treat them like parents, something that previous generations actively opposed (students campaigned against rules about who could visit your dorm room, employees campaigned against employers enforcing rules about conduct outside work). The latest generation of young adults seem to want government/school/corporations to be their mummy and ensure that they don’t encounter anything that might make them feel a negative emotion even if that means that other people have to suffer.

I do wonder if we have accidentally stumbled into a nightmarish cross between 1984 and Brave New World, social media being the soma and Big Brother rolled into one, stimulating those dopamine receptors and keeping a watchful eye on what everyone says and then ruthlessly stomping on anyone that dares to utter wrongspeak.

The sooner that younger generations rebel against this shit the better.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a weird tension. The want to be infantilized but they also don't want to accept rules or discipline, and they want to be able to determine the direction of the culture and their employers (if they want to work at all).

[–]The_Best_Yak_Ever 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don’t see themselves as workers at all. They see themselves as activists, advocates, agitators, and culture warriors. Their worldviews preclude them from comprehending that their duties as a barista does not include preaching gender ideology or any other social issue. They see themselves as “equals” or quite frankly, moral superiors to management and corporate and everyone else. It’s a grotesquely entitled mindset, where they don’t see places of work. They only see a platform. They are so self important that they will use other people’s businesses and institutions to promote themselves and their beliefs while simultaneously using it to silence anyone else who has different beliefs, opinions, or perspectives.

They have internalized this message that they are perfect as they are, and have nothing to learn from those older and more mature than they are. They are both far too aggressive in their interactions with everyone, and far too sensitive. They use their hurt feelings as a shield and a weapon to bully people into silence. They have the sheer audacity to make us responsible for catering to their personal emotional wellbeing, by demanding that no one be allowed to say anything they disagree with or that might hurt their pants-wettingly weak feelings. They possess zero emotional or even physical strength or resilience and are so feeble and pathetic that they will actually record themselves sobbing in the breakroom at work because they “got misgendered.”

The case in point is that disgusting trans identified man physically throwing a woman out of Starbucks and assault the man filming his detestable behavior, all because he felt that his nebulous concept of the now utterly meaningless concept of “transphobia” entitled him to commit assault and battery.

I am grateful that people at large are waking up to see what happens when you give a pack of self-righteous, self-important, depraved, and hateful losers the power to dictate to others how they MUST be perceived. We need adults who understand that work is for work, not a platform to aggressively promote personal beliefs. And who understands that no one’s personal identities or beliefs require a whole month to publicly jerkoff to. That we are free to do what we want behind closed doors with CONSENTING adults, but that no one else is required to praise or applaud you for it.

Ultimately, what we need is for these types of losers to simply grow up.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s like a spoilt child. Wrapped in cotton wool, but given everything they demand.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, Starbucks says that there’s no rule against Pride decorations and stores can have Pride decors up as long as they meet health and safety guidelines. So, they’re striking because….

They make a massive deal about unionisation, a process I’m fully supportive of, and then they do stupid shit like this. Hope they all get fired, coffee ain’t hard to make and I’m sure there’s plenty to fill their positions.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Basically it looks like Starbucks is allowing their store managers to decide if they put up pride decorations in their store or not. Some store managers in red states have decided not to because I guess they don't want to suicide their sales numbers for June.

I frankly don't care. I'd definitely scab on this strike myself were I were a Starbucks worker since it's retarded. Were I starbucks corporate I'd be looking into ways to automate the stores and remove the human element.

And as a customer Starbucks tastes like battery acid and I don't drink it regardless if I have a choice. Like no shit prefer coffee from McDonald's. Cheaper and tastier.

The pride decorations just annoy me at this point. I didn't use to care much but it feels patronizing as fuck seeing giant rainbow stuff everywhere to the point where I'd rather just go somewhere that has normal decorations. Same with lots of this stuff. All the American flag stuff after 911 was started to grate. As of course I feel like Christmas decorations do as well.

Just empty commercialism.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some store managers in red states have decided not to because I guess they don't want to suicide their sales numbers for June.

41% is a pretty large number.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Afaik they are striking because Starbucks Corporate isn't forcing every store to put up pride decorations. Since apparently some franchises have decided not to put up pride decorations. Oh no!

It's really stupid because they can't force locations to put up pride decorations anyway. They'd be risking religious discrimination lawsuits. To say nothing of the massive sales drop they'd get in red states. Hell you could even argue that it puts their employees in danger of crazies vandalizing the stores.

Also I'm pretty sure the locations striking are ones that have already put up the pride decorations so it's an incredibly stupid strike. But that's the way things go now. I'm in favor of unions as well so long as association is voluntary. This kind of shit would definitely have me rethinking my union membership.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So they can’t handle going to work if their personal/political beliefs are visibly validated by their employer? Talk about being out of touch with reality so much that experiencing work/life now the vast majority of us experience it is too hard for them.

It’s almost as if their entire identities revolve around their Reddit tier sexual politics and despite these people believing themselves to be deep thinkers, there’s not much else there beneath the surface.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's like, "I won't go to work in California because there's a shop in Texas that isn't putting up pride decorations" so it's really really stupid.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Time to cut those gender affirmation benefits.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As someone on the left who has been upset with the way purely leftist concerns are being both swept under the rug and also being mischaracterized as "right wing", this sort of thing is infuriating because it's damaging the entire concept of unions.

The way people use gender self id is no different than the way the same people use leftist self id. It's really frustrating how people who consider themselves populists now think they are right wing and can plainly see the gender self id stuff to be nonsense but will accept the leftist self id as true.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Congrats, you understand how union busting works.

I think that's the whole point of most all this identity stuff. Worker solidarity basically requires that the workers show a united front. You're a corporate entity that wants to keep your workers from organizing. Keep them fighting each other with calls for special treatment of each and every identity group so they're all too busy trying to one up each other and get their own piece of the pie than to bother with doing anything that is in the interests of everyone.

"Hey we need to be paid more!"

Oh yeah? What about gay bipoc you racist? They need the money even more than you.

Rabble rabble rabble

Wages stay the same.

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't buy starfucks and don't give a shit what the employees have to say.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Starbucks has been on my "avoid if any other options exist" list for a long time. Really just don't like their product tastes like battery acid. No clue why it got so popular.

Like I legit prefer McDonald's coffee. It's cheaper and I think it tastes better.

I think Starbucks biggest draw must be their sweet drinks. I don't get why people like those. Just get a soda if you want to drink sugar. Coffee is supposed to be bitter. Not sweet.

Oh wait it's America right, where every restaurant has little sugar packets at each table so you can add even more sugar to your food and drink just in case it wasn't already too sweet for you. Makes sense.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LGB community: "Stop pandering to us with your shallow fake care for pride while trying to sell us more."

Starbux employees: "Why won't they let us pander to them, reeeee"

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Right wingers ought to do the same but whenever companies show pride decorations.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're dangerously close to a major religious organization declaring pride decorations as a form of idolitry and having legtitimately legally enforceable refusals to work based on such.

Like what if a business decided to put up a statue of Beelzebub and make the employees respect it? Can you claim differently with a pride flag.

This shit is gonna open a whole bunch of new shit and it ain't gonna be pretty.