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[–]LtGreenCo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Basing a healthcare regimen on the emotional whims of patients is not science; not in the slightest. It's the opposite. The whole scientific method is designed to mitigate the fact that us very fallible humans are unreliable sources of data. And the entire transgender "lived experience" is exactly that - unreliable, anecdotal, unfalsifiable - exactly the kind of data you can't use for science.

Christ if this is what passes for science we'll be right back to the dark ages in no time.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It'll be exactly like lobotomies, which were initially regarded as a valid form of treatment for a number of (mental) illnesses, until people finally realized that they were anything but. And when that happenes, every single person who pushed for it will scatter into the cracks like cockroaches when the lights come on, desperate to avoid their rightful portion of the blame (and, one would hope, the penalties levied).

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Lived experience” is both their highest form of evidence and a weapon with which to beat critics. Fairly certain that we have the critical race twats to thank for its rise to prominence.

I got into an argument with someone who should know better about falsifiability and the range of social justice topics, and it is ridiculous how unfalsifiable or actually falsified theories (patriarchy, gender identity, etc etc) are not only accepted as true, but are also used as the basis for policy making. I think Andrew Doyle is right to draw parallels between the SocJus crowd and the Salem Witch Trials and Puritans.

And the weird thing is, people who would happily apply proper methodologies to all other aspects of their life are only too willing to accept the guff that passes for research and evidence when it comes to the socjus stuff.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Boom, headshot!

[–]notafed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

but... but... the science is settled....

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The entire notion of "settled science" is utterly ludicrous.

That aside, how can this even be remotely settled if we can't find a definitive reason for trans identification.

My position on this would be radically different if you could prove scientifically the existence of a materially real gendered "soul". But you clearly cannot.

There not a singular definitive objective test to tell if someone is trans or not. It's basically all based on self identification. I wish my bank balance worked on a similar system of self identification.

[–]Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

How is science ever settled? I remember back when I was in school they'd point out it's accurate for what we know now but for all we know another discovery tomorrow could completely upheave everything we think we know. Was always an interesting thought experiment that one discovery could make all the concepts and ideas that we think of as fact to be wrong. Very unlikely but possible.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It’s never settled, but…. I would be very surprised if we ever found an alternative to the germ theory of disease.

I think it’s retarded for anyone to say “it’s settled science” especially when it clearly isn’t as medical organisations in other countries are abruptly reversing course and issuing warnings.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Tbf we say that with current knowledge which is why it's so interesting!

Like I cannot picture anything overturning it but things of that scale have happened before. Same with many things but usually it's more refining current theories than blowing everything we think apart. It is just crazy to think about the possibility that we may have fields that we've built on the wrong thing that could completely change how we view it going forward however slim that may be.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I agree with you.

And, I have my fingers crossed for “The Ghost Theory of Disease”.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Would be interesting and weird if one of the old ones came back in. "hey guys turns out the miasma theory was right all along, it IS the bad smells making people sick!" that or our humours being out of balance would really confuse me haha.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It’s the storks, babies have always been brought by the storks!

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think it's totally wrong. Lots of people like to dismiss these old fashioned ideas as backwards and then don't really bother to study them, but they were scientific in a manner. People lacking microscopes can't imagine the concept of germs but do notice that things that smell bad make people sick.

So if you're around a decomposing corpse and you get a disease they were smart enough to put two and two together and figure that something from the corpse is giving you the disease, but since they have no concept of germs they only can go off of what they can sense, in that case smell.

So yeah bad smells do make people sick, sort of.

[–]Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it makes sense it a lot of ways, pooping near food -> People are sick. Building Latrines away from food -> less sickness.

There's a thought process there at least and it also makes sense because rotten food smells bad and rotten food can make you sick. I can see why they'd get there. Not exactly right but logical with the knowledge they had.

[–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Forgot the /s

[–]SashimiSlut 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The marines consider threatening suicide one of the top tier levels of domestic violence. "If I can't get what I want I will kill myself!". Yet "life saving care" is plastered everywhere. I was on suicide watch a few years ago, and all I saw were other "cis" women. Where are all these suicidal trans? Hm.

[–]JulienMayfair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Remember when GLAAD used to be the "Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation"?

I mean, I think they should at least change their name to something like TQPRINC

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Settled science” because people who profit off it said so.

[–]cephyrious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is it that everything after "reminder" is biased horseshit or blatant lies whenever it is near a trans flag?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These community notes were put in place before Elon took over Twitter but I can imagine he will get "blamed" for people using them to debunk the top-down propaganda. At the time Twitter was dominated by TRAs and people were routinely banned for the slightest "misgendering". I imagine that they thought that their community notes would help reinforce their side and they would just delete every community notes which disagreed because it "violates the TOS". Other social media went with the tactic of paying "neutral" fact check organizations to fix posts because it them absolves them of responsibility.

Twitter no longer bans people or posts for disagreeing with TRAs and I'm sure they are regretting that decision to offload fact checking onto their uncontrollable user base when THEY had control over the ban button.