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[–]send_nasty_stuff 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (22 children)

You have to understand though that even though saidit is better than reddit it is not a free speech platform. Magnora7 uses the 'pyramid of debate' selectively and essentially curates the entire site to fit his political opinions. The direction saidit is going is not organic and user driven. It's top down. Checkout poal, ruqqus, or some of the more closed spaces like telegram, riot, etc.

[–]RuckFeddit[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Can you give examples?

[–]send_nasty_stuff 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Sure. Magnora7 took several of the subs I mod and blocked them from the s/new feed. He also went into our settings and unblocked a user that had been trolling our subverse. He did this without notifying us or even giving warning that we were violating the pyramid of debate (which we weren't). I have screen shots and proof on all this if anyone thinks I'm making it up.

The subverses in question

s/altrightwebm

s/debatealtright

[–]AddledCorpse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Wait is this why i literally never see debate alt right in the front page despite being subscribed?

I thought it was just dead

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    [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    having the vile hateful garbage that debatealtright spews out shown on the front page, isn't good for attracting new users.

    lol, whatever, loser

    Doesn't mean they can't exist though.

    How fucking magnanimous of you. User for 1 month

    I'm constantly impressed by the sheer level of hubris that drive retarded leftists

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      [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      jesus fucking wept.

      That kind of condescending speech might have served you well elsewhere, but here it just gets a swift "fuck off".

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        [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Ah, another new 'expert', not shy to tell us how our own site works.

        This site is about discourse, debate and.... free speech, so go fuck yourself, you condescending twat.

        If you like I can add a paragraph of philosophical musings to drag this up the pyramid of debate, but personally, I like rolling around in the muck when it comes to a bit of mudslinging with leftist retards.

        [–]send_nasty_stuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        So you fully admit that the admin of the site blocks certain subverses from being seen by saidit users? Also you're cool with a social media admin driving the site in a direction that is not organic and not reflective of a good chunk of the actual user base? You do realize that if he's going to do that during the early years of the site he certainly going to do it in the later years and there's a good chance that a community you mod or enjoy will be targeted for the silent treatment as well.

        [–]EuropeanAwakening 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        Why is it vile and hateful for Europeans to advocate for their interests?

        Because you're an anti White. It's really that simple. You do not attack any other group the way you attack White people. This makes your agenda obvious.

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          [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          You don't have to say that you're anti white. We can smell it from a mile away. It's not racist to assume immigration is part of a sheme in the genocide of whites. How is it racist? Literally doesn't make any sense. Whites are allowed to have their own countries even if jews like yourself want our countries destroyed. It's extremely racist to suggest whites don't have a right to their own countries lol.

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            [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            The far simpler explanation is people seeking out better lives for themselves.

            It's politically organised and it's against the wishes of the majority of the people. So no, it's not just a simple explanation, although it would be nice if the world was just simple.

            Who is saying white people don't have the right to exist?

            You said that it's vile, hateful and racist to assume immigration is making a race go extinct.
            Whites saying we don't want nonwhites in our countries is us exercising our right to our own countries. You have a problem with our self-determination and wish to eradicate us through forceful immigration of non-whites against the majority of whites wishes.

            Also do you alt righters have an alert system or something?

            I'm not alt right. I am left wing social democratic. You assuming i'm alt right because I proclaim that whites deserve a right to self determination and a right to their own countries is very telling of your entire "totally not wanting white countries to get destroyed"-world view. You probably support BLM too. Hard to be more mask off for you at this point and you're not hiding it very well.

            Please positively confirm:
            "Whites have a right to their own countries"
            "Whites deserve self-determination in their own countries"
            "Whites deserve their own countries like everyone else"
            "Whites have a right to refuse non-white immigration into their own countries"
            "Mass Immigration can be used to genocide a people in an area"

            If you disagree with one or more of them, then just say that you disagree with those.

            [–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Wait is this why i literally never see debate alt right in the front page despite being subscribed?

            Yes.

            I thought it was just dead

            Nope. Very much alive and also on ruqqus.

            https://ruqqus.com/+DebateTheDissidentRight

            [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            I am wary of censorship, so I subbed and then opened a saidit.net tab. I have debatealtright showing up (down a page and a half), specifically: https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/6k54/technology_and_liberalism/ 3 hours ago

            Care to post an image of your front page u/AddledCorpse ? Maybe 3 pages down for us?

            [–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            It works for your own homepage but not in the general s/all or s/new.

            [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Isn't that expected based of saidit's FAQ? Like, the people who want that are still getting access. Maybe I'm missing something. Oh, you're saying it's de facto quarantined.

            Well, getting clarification on this would be nice, but first step is to get clarity on which subs are echo chamber subs (ie women only, alt right only, antifa only, etc) and which allow free discussion (like, apparently, the dissident sub discussed): https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/6esq/pyramid_of_debate_vs_echo_chamber_subs/