Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Yep. And Yep. Thanks for the invites. I was never much of a mod. I just liked to make banners, a few CSS themes, and to include lots of information for folks in the sidebox. If inspired I'll accept the invite to do some of that, obviously open to be tweaked by you and other mods (maybe d3rr might help you with A+++ and A++). Until then, unless ever retracted, I'll just let the invite sit and not accept nor decline. Thanks again!

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm planning to use it for A+++ content as you described above. I just wanted the title to look funny. Anyway, it matters very little. Anyone can link it as /s/APlusPlusPlus, and in the titlebar it shows up as "A+++". So only the sidebar on the sub itself is affected. Also, you can consider it equally your own sub, I've invited you to moderate it (as well as /s/DiscoverSaidit).

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a major issue if you know about it. Feel free to add it to the wiki FAQ, linked at the bottom of all pages.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I recently learned that using /u/usernames in posts doesn't ping people - only up to 3 in comments.

That's a major issue, in my opinion. u/d3rr u/magnora7

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]Vigte 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Awww, thank you :)

I was mainly kidding though lol.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That's hardly "new" - but it's welcome in /s/DiscoverSaidit.

I did post there 3 months ago.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]Vigte 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oi; no /s/VigtesSickofThisShit/ ?

Critically under-represented and I'm going to need to demand equality of outcome!

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe you want /s/aplusplusplus to be for c0M3d1C c0N73Nt or something, but it wouldn't have been my choice. Regardless, I'm glad it exists.

Great idea for an A+++Bot! I'd recommend making a request post in /s/SaidItBots. /u/diogenesjunior might have helped you but he deleted all his content like a child and was banned, in that order or not - including from that sub.

There are definitely bots here, some very obvious when you see the patterns. I've suggested site-wide rules for ethical bots (with grandfathering exceptions for extant bots). Doesn't mean all bots will obey, but that justifies deleting them. These rules would include things like 1) All bot users accounts must make themselves be known by including "bot" in their name, or 2) Subs should declare if they are bots-only, no-bots, limited bots allowed (with a wiki white list), and any bots allowed, 3) etc.

Yes, actually you're quite correct! /s/DiscoverSaidIt would have been more appropriate. First time I looked. /s/Race_DivisionByElites was even in there. I feel like a lot of people could have been posting better (rather than just all in /s/politics) if we'd had organized the subs years ago. I feel that a lot of my subs were under utilized.

I should post some of my compilation lists of related subs (some are even in this OP) in /s/DiscoverSaidit.

This OP was originally for Part 2, proposing "Critically Absent Potential New Subs". In my Volume 1 post I also criticized the naming of this /s/NewSaidits/ and how it defeated the idea of having a place to discuss before we create subs. Many of my subs might have had better names if I'd gotten feedback. Anyway, over yesterday and today working on Part 2 (before I divided them) I realized I should make what became Part 1 to bring attention to these subs and also maybe build anticipation for the next one. Unfortunately the front page is all sockpuppet chaos, including some of my own posts to my chagrin. Fortunately there's no expiry on these ideas and I'll keep reminding folks there are posts to go through if they missed them.

I'm starting to wonder if I should have just made them as wiki pages like my old Subsaidit Contenders wish list because at least with the wiki all the "#Titles" are indexed at the top and folks could just glimpse the proposed names rather than scrolling down my verbose explainations.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I recently learned that using /u/usernames in posts doesn't ping people - only up to 3 in comments.

I hope you don't mind my limited "review". I haven't delved in to your content yet. It was a last minute spontaneous addition. I doubt I'll be disappointed when I actually take the time.

Feel free to mod /s/VotingReform. Maybe you know an admin to help with that. I was really hoping the issue would be raised more with all the obvious nonsense this year. I only know of a few proposed solutions even being discussed out there (ie. ranked-choice voting, open-source apps, blockchain, etc) but none are being promoted widely. I'd rather have people vote on issues rather than puppets (ie. no war, healthcare, etc), but they will never allow that.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure how I wasn't notified about the username mention, but thanks for the shout-out I guess. I did, however, see the notification that you subscribed to my YouTube channel, lol.

Btw, I might mod /s/VotingReform/ if needed.

Please Consider These Critical Subs | Part 1: Extant Critical New Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good list / write-up. It was deliberate that /s/aplusplusplus doesn't have capitals. It looks slightly absurd and requires just a bit of effort to decode; this has a comedic effect. But I'm planning to use it for serious content. Yes, I want to collect the A+++ content there. It'd be nice if a bot could automatically detect when someone makes a top-level comment saying "A+++" anywhere, and then x-post it in that sub. I was going to ask if there were bots on Saidit, but then I realized that Americans believe a lot of things that one is to be cynical about. But anyway, yeah. It could be Saidit's first officially sanctioned bot, if it were made.

I must say, I prefer some degree of aggregation of subs. Why not use /s/DiscoverSaidit for posts like these? It's exactly what that sub is meant for.

Proposed sub: /s/InfiltratorWatch by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

best to stay true to one's self

+

Real trust is earned by action, not by rhetoric or perception.

Double wisdom.

Proposed sub: /s/InfiltratorWatch by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yea, they're more obvious to folks like you and I who have been here. The stupid ones didn't work too well, and it seems the game has been stepped up a bit.

I try not to get to worried about it. We are in a chaotic time where this is commonplace. I think it's best to stay true to one's self even if the mob and everyone else is against it.

Real trust is earned by action, not by rhetoric or perception.

Proposed sub: /s/InfiltratorWatch by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe. Until it's impossible to ignore. IMO we need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Proposed sub: /s/InfiltratorWatch by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not all of them are obvious. The obvious asstrolls are just distractions. While the other infiltrators might rightfully say how lame and obvious they are while making friends and building confidence to do more severe damage later. Like it or not, DiogenesJunior and others may be associated with them. Perhaps I'm just paranoid, but I wouldn't ever run a psyops on only one level were I in that racket.

Then again, most cops are stupid, or they'd see the error of their ways. So too, half of everyone is stupider than average. Combined it makes for humour. At Burning Man the narcs were ALWAYS easy to tell from far away, dressing and acting weird to blend in, but doing so poorly that they were more than obvious. Though I have to give credit, a story I heard and did not witness, there was a narc at Burning Man who wore a "NARC" T-shirt and people thought it was a costume and were stupid enough to offer him stuff - and got busted.

You're right about the muzzle virtue signalling, "we're all in this together" - except the corporatocracy who's leaving everyone screwed.

Yes, I wonder about the online trust network too. There must be a way or many ways to resolve this dilemma.

Decentralized empowerment of the individual may be a good path to explore.

Wisdom.

Proposed sub: /s/InfiltratorWatch by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The infiltrators are pretty obvious. They come here not to learn and consider another point of view, but to denounce and push an agenda. We have several long term infiltrators currently. I guess you know you're on target if you're getting flak, so there's that. But if it were up to me, I think I'd just remove them.

Half of Reddit now is likely "stabs". There is value in people's perceptions. Look at how much is spent on advertising. How anyone could say an election was stolen with 100k in facebook ads in a billion dollar election campaign shows the effectiveness. An open site such as saidit will always be open to infiltration.

However, I do appreciate the free thinkers that I do see on this site.

Infiltration is as old as societies. I think it could be argued that the current paradigm of masks and lockdowns etc have nothing to do with disease, but management of trust networks and making those that do form obvious so that they can be managed.

An online trust network could be formed using encryption keys et al, but that could be infiltrated too.

Decentralized empowerment of the individual may be a good path to explore.

Please Consider These Potential New Subs, Volume 1 | Part 1: NewSaidits' Proposed Guidelines + Part 2: Potentially Fun Interactive Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why do we need more empty subs though?

" I will certainly help if these subs are created... "

They wouldn't remain empty. And obviously every sub with a clear title and purpose (if not self evident then in the sidebox outlined clearly, without mumbo-jumbo (ie. IronLeft)) is an invitation in itself to post there.

Adding to the empty subs is not adding anything to the problem that already exists - not cleaning them up is now the problem. I recommend a 2 month period to use it or lose it. Dealing with subs with one or more posts gets more complex and we can deal with that when we get to it, but we haven't even got past the first much bigger step of recycling the empties piled up in the kitchen.

Please Consider These Potential New Subs, Volume 1 | Part 1: NewSaidits' Proposed Guidelines + Part 2: Potentially Fun Interactive Subs by JasonCarswell in NewSaidits

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why do we need more empty subs though?

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alright. It's hard to say when or if the sub will gain any popularity. Site traffic has been low as of late, and the sub would need to be promoted itself. Bit of an irony, needing to promote a sub about promoting subs, in a sub somewhere.... I assume you have an overall vision for the look of it, and I have zero experience in working with templates. Speaking of a couple of years, it might just take that long for a sub of this nature to gain any traction. But do we even want popularity for it? I assume it would be for promoting current subs, as well as brainstorming potentials subs. Is that correct?

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

After I do some stuff and feel more whimsical I may accept your mod invite to add a blurb, then un-mod again. (Feel free to edit it as you see fit thereafter.) In that lighter mode I'll also share some lists of sub ideas, and/or sub projects. I have enough for one post a day for at least a couple weeks - or a couple years if I didn't use lists.

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. This all seems good. If you would like to expand on the description, feel free to. The stub that is there, I just hap haphazardly wrote.

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your description in https://SaidIt.net/subs/new/ currently states:

"New Saidits subs, discussion of future subs, and promotion of newly created ones."

I suspect Bob3 (who has blocked me and can't read this) might be meaning in the sidebox to the right, below the subscribe button.

For more ideas to include you can mine the comments of the original post this OP mirrors: /s/SaidIt/comments/7fw5/i_propose_someone_create_ssubswewant_it_would/ I drunkenly rhapsodized out many reasons.

While I disagree with Bob3 on a few things I know we agree on much else, often posting the same videos. Blind-spots aside, he's generally got good insights from his heavily biased perspective. Importantly here, his feedback will be great to help rationally weigh the pros and cons.

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Feel free to expand upon what is already there. I believe JasonCarswell will be joining, and adding his input, since he did wish for this sub to exist in the first place.

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This sub needs a description!

Thanks for the mod invites. I'm not a supporter of endless sub expansion, so expect me to try and talk everyone out of everything :D

I propose someone create /s/SubsWeWant. It would behoove us to discuss potential subs first, explain our goals, determine if better names exist, consider (co-)moderators, be encouraged or talked out of them, and help promote awareness about them. I have lists of sub ideas I think folks might like. by Questionable in NewSaidits

[–]Questionable[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

A sub of this nature requires a full spectrum of moderators. With this in mind, I have invited small group upon creation. Feel free to decline the invite, as this sub is currently so small it is virtually non existent.

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ