LifestyleWhere are things good?

submitted by HelloMomo from self.LGBDropTheT

I don't know how to frame this without sounding silly, but like... where are things ok right now? Like are there any countries that are holding their shit together?

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I guess Finland. Gay marriage and adoption are legal, and you have to get sterilised to get a sex change over there. Plus, Finnish men are kinda sexy.

[–]boypower 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Finnish gay here. Can't say it's much different sadly, but there is very clear opposition to trans stuff. One of the biggest public messaging boards (once directed at mothers and women, now a general Finnish public forum for all sorts of people) for instance has had several thousand page threads with tens of thousands of replies essentially pointing out how harmful the trans trend is, and it's clearly the popular opinion there. But outside of the actual common folk being against most of this stuff, we have our twitter '' activists '' yelling about terfs, the Finnish reddit subreddit gargling down all of the trans trend juice without any critical thought, Universities giving credence to non-binary nonsense and the national public service media YLE is definitely on the trans trend train.

It's definitely not the worst, but it isn't great.

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I see. I’m glad that most of the Finnish public are switched on, but that is disappointing. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that universities in western countries promote degeneracy. And I’ve heard about YLE being a neoliberal propaganda corporation. YLE is probably the RTÉ or the BBC of Finland.

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Finland has also deviated from the "standards of care" for trans youth going back to psychotherapy instead of the affirmation model because they found no evidence to support the affirmation model.

Which is nice to see.

The UK found no evidence to support the affirmation model either, but then just kept doing it. I assume because of political pressure.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Affirmation model is ridiculous. Solving problems by encouraging the denial of reality? It's counter to common sense. No wonder so many Trans never get better.

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Good for Finland. Bad for UK. Maybe in the UK it varies by country - Scotland would definitely be in favour of affirming children who have been groomed into it, while England is on the path to psychotherapy.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Em Scandinavia sounds a depressign place to be. Too introvertedN(I'm very introverted myself, but living in a society like that can easily lead to isolation, and in fact there are higher rates of suicide and antidepressant usage) and cold as fuck. Basically like a dystopic place. Too many blondes and blue eyes I like darker feature ahsh Quality of life and safety are the best in the world, but definitely wouldn't want to live there.

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Yeah, Finland is dark and cold as fuck. Not to mention that Finnish people are socially awkward, probably even by my own standards. I do like their saunas and their taste in music though.

I love blond men, so I’d love to find a nice Finnish man who’s blond. Also, most Finnish men have served in the military for at least six months, and I like ex-military men. But it’s not for everyone. If I ever meet a Finnish man I’d probably bring him to Ireland or we’d both live in the Mediterranean.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But you said you like bald men. Can you be blond and bald at the same time? LMAO

The sauna culture sounds cools, truth. And the acceptance of nudity even in mixed sexes. Very evolved. Don't know about music. Germany seems like much funnier place to live in Northen Europe, with amazing cities like Berlin and Cologne (the gay capital) and great beer. Although I don't like there either. Much prefer the Uk in most aspects, people especially, even though quality of life and safety in Germany is mile ahead.

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A blond guy can shave his head or go bald at a later date. A bald guy can also have a blond beard. I like both blond men and bald men though.

I was in Germany once, in Munich. I loved Munich but I wasn’t there for long. Just for the first day and last day of a round trip across Central Europe. But I’d love to see more of Germany. They have good food, good chocolate, good architecture, they’re very efficient and German men are sexy. Germans can be a bit uptight, though. Then again, some Germans are laidback. I had a lecture back in college who was easygoing.

I loved visiting the UK, and I have cousins living there. I’ve only been to Essex and London, but I’ve had a good time. If you want to live in England, get a gender critical girlfriend and live in the north of Essex, where the medieval architecture is amazing. England has problems with police and services, but English people are becoming more self-reliant and community focused, and therefore more independent of the government. So if you have skills, you will fit in very well and become part of a strong community.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Efficient can mean boring and closed minded though. Germans are much more conservative and against change than people think. Unlike english culture which is more open, international and progressive. They can be very direct, which is good but can also be cold and rude. English people are known for being polite. English accent is hot as fuck (and in Uk italian accent is popular and considered hot by many, which I have to say my accent in english sound nice ahah), german is harsh language. But Germany also has great points. Much safer than Germany, not gans problems and less class divide and more support from government means less poverty and less crimes and really rough areas, Uk is closer to US in this regards, german public transport is great and you can easily live carfree in any city, unlike Uk and cities like Berlin and Cologne are very cool with lots of cool people and high density of gay population. Cologne especially sounds very charming because was founded by ancient Romans and is nicknamed the northmost italian town and people there are known to be the most outgoing in Germany. EMunich is said to be super expensive and full of snobs. Overall any country has good or bad aspects, I prefer the Uk. But people becoming more independent I hope it doesn't mean like USA, with lots of private services.

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Yeah, I found British people nicer than Germans. And no, I don’t want Britain to be like America. In America, Americans are not independent, they are dependent on corporations. And these same corporations are dependent on funds, bailouts and tax breaks from the US government.

[–]hellonumpty 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well since it's apparently been announced that in Scotland kids as young as 4 will be allowed to change their gender without parental consent, I'm gonna say.....we're not doing too good here tbh. Even though I love living here. I think it's fine for gay and bi people. But I genuinely worry how this trans stuff will play out here.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wow, that's crazy

[–]Cass 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm in a conservative east european country and the LGB + T thing is starting to gain mainstream acceptance. But the T is definitely viewed the same way/ like it is the same thing as LGB.

So there is opposition towards LGBT or support for LGBT, no nuance.

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That’s a shame. This is why the T needs to be dropped.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Italy ihas not queer problem. In super progressive places like Bologna you would hear more of it, but nothing like USA.But not marriage, not adoption, not IVF, which to me also has in impact on the dating market. Like usually bisexuals end up with men because of numbers, and in a country when making a family with same sex is very hard, the lean of hetero life is even bigger. Also kinda of provincial culture and I've heard from lesbians who lived in Uk, that lesbians there are far more open and friendly, while here there is more closeness within their own friends group, but it might be because people are interested in knowing foreigners. Germany doesn't seem bad in gender ideology and rights are very good there. Overall, I don't think living in Uk is bad and is my dream country (well that would be Spain, if it weren't for the economy), despite queers being kinda important, it isn't comparable to North America shitty situation.

[–]HelloMomo[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Overall, I don't think living in Uk is bad and is my dream country

It looks to me that — of the English-speaking world — the UK is going to be the first to fix the situation. "Terf island" and all that. But I suspect that's still between 5 and 10 years off, before public opinion really comes around.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Probably. I also forgot that if the anti.-homophobia law passes here in Italy, there is a clause including gender and its promotion in school. So things could get worst. Overall its a thing all over the west.

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The UK will certainly fix it before Ireland will.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Certain parts of the US are doing well rn. Although school board meetings are crazy in just about every town in the country rn. States are taking back their authority, which has included banning child transitioning (TX declared it child abuse yesterday).