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[–]JulienMayfair 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

America 2021: You can't peacefully assemble to make your voice heard in a public space without being attacked by Antifa. This is domestic terrorism.

Twenty years ago, I went toe to toe with Westboro Baptist Church types at a gay event, and I have to give them credit. They knew and obeyed the law. They were horrible people, but they didn't physically attack us, nor did we attack them. We all played by the rules of civil society.

But trans activists? Forget it. They'll try to beat the shit out of you. I think Andy Ngo (who I heard is gay) is right about Antifa and their ties with trans activism.

[–]BEB[S] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Antifa is Trantifa! I tried to post a video on here of Antifa-seeming trans activists attacking cops at a Spanish PRIDE march in an attempt to get past the cops to attack women.

The trans activists claimed that they were reclaiming the "essence" of the fight and resistance of Stonewall and that 2021 PRIDE was about transgender resistance (it was in Spanish so I'm giving you a rough translation from memory). The mods didn't think it was appropriate for this forum, but you can find it at the trans activists' twitter @TransFuria go to June 26th.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you can posts such things in the gendercritical sub here on saidit

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did post the twitter link w the video on s/GenderCritical, but, given that the text was trans activists claiming that PRIDE was about trans resistance and boasting that trans were taking up the mantle of Stonewall, while the video was of trans activists attacking police in an attempt to beat up lesbians at PRIDE, I thought it was relevant to this sub too.

[–]julesburm1891 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

One of the things I really don’t understand about modern America is how people behaving like Blackshirts are somehow “anti-fascist” and above media criticism.

[–]lavender_menace 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not just the US. Antifa behaves this way in other Western countries too. From where I’m standing all the ‘black square’ (dressed all in black, faces disguised) does is beating up people, fight with the police and destroy poor peoples property. They never attack the wealthy or clash with their well organized security nor destroy their mansions or burn their cars, but they destroy common citizens cars or attack them like the cowards they are.

I don’t see any difference between them and garden variety nazis - they all behave like thugs.

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not to sound like a dolt, but other countries have this problem too?

Yeah. I haven’t been able to wrap my head around people “protesting” racism and fascism by burning black communities to the ground and beating up bystanders. (And how they almost never get called out for that in mainstream media.) It’s all bullshit and zero concern for actual minorities, working class people, or democracy.

[–]lavender_menace 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. You can see them frequently at G20, G8 or other G* protests. Any kind of social issues be it climate or racism and the ”black block” will assemble. When tires or cars burned in say Paris during riots a couple years back, you betcha they were there. They usually come to these protests from all over the country. Or countries. I assume it’s a lot of fun for them, not like it’s on them to pick up the pieces.

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's because the "liberal" media in the US is bought and sold (or owned) by Big Pharma. Literally.

Even "independent" media like Democracy Now! is enthusiastically pumping out genderology propaganda - why? Look at its donors.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

he is gay, yes. Antifa attracks trans because they are very pro trans, supporting therm over women.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's another video that was just released by a young mother who had an incident at Wi Spa last year with a naked man in the women's area . Her six-year-old daughter was with her.

Anyway, she said that there were many normal people at the Wi Spa protest, which she went to, but that Antifa chased them away. These thugs are shutting down our rights.

I posted her video on s/GenderCritical. It's worth watching because she's very well-spoken, sincere, genuinely sweet, I think Hispanic, and has gone to many PRIDE marches, so can't be easily canceled. But she's passionate about not having penises in spaces with girls.

There's now a lot of scrutiny into California's change of the legal definition of sex to include gender identity (actually, it's so confusing who knows what it means) - I think that between this incident and the first Wi Spa incident, those of us who have been sounding the alarm about the dangers of codifying gender identity into law might finally have a chance of being heard.

Let's hope the Dumbo Dems and Gender Joe wake up before they seal their own fate by passing the horrific Equality Act, and causing some sort of civil war in the US when American women and the men who love them realize that every formerly sex-segregated space is now Wi Spa.

And of course, the blame will fall on LGB...

EDITED TO ADD : Some of the comments on this new Wi Spa incident video sound like they come from posters on LGBDroptheT - We are not alone ;-)

Here's one:

"I'm so sorry. This is the reality of modern trans rights activism. I am a lesbian and I oppose this. Those green-haired women with the man were not necessarily lesbians. Heterosexuals are dyeing their hair green/blue and calling themselves queer these days. The LGBTQ+, alphabet soup community has become a hostile place for lesbians in particular. I no longer support them and I haven't gone to gay pride in years because it has been colonized by trans rights activists and corporations."

[–]GConly 23 insightful - 7 fun23 insightful - 6 fun24 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

This was the lead up to about twice as many people, mostly agressive males.

Shocked Pikachu face

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

And of course it’s allowed on YouTube.

You know, we used to have insane asylums.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes unlike those nasty women who talk about women's rights in a polite manner, uh... transphobic totally bigoted way, this is allowed!

[–]julesburm1891 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Warning to people clicking the link: I gagged.

[–]SkepticalHPSSuper Straight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I wish I read the warnings before seeing that. I have a pretty strong stomach but that was horrendous.

[–]julesburm1891 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah. It’s like he was trying to turn stomachs. Graphic footage of needles being inserted in totally unsafe ways? ✔️ Blood in amounts that verge on gore? ✔️ A disconcerting use of light that looks like a knock-off Manson video? ✔️ A flaccid dick flopping around? ✔️ Contorting oneself in a manner reminiscent of The Exorcist? ✔️

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you forgot bad music, bad production and his voice isn't that great either.

[–]lavender_menace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the description. Now I don’t have to torture my eyes because of curiosity.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

can't unsee

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure this is true. This guy is a real creep, but I'm not sure he's the one who whipped his dick out.

The Wi Spa shero said she was going to speak soon, so maybe she'll confirm whether this guy is the man she saw.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do we have evidence of that? As uneasy as I am with "Precious Child", I don't want us propagating a witch hunt against someone without proof.

All I can find is a photo supposedly from an Instagram user (@weshallpromenade / Bryna Makowka) whose account is private, and "Precious Child" denying it was him on Twitter.

I've even checked 4chan and Kiwi Farms, and so far, none of them have been able to prove it. The Farms did already doxx him though.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree: Unless this man is absolutely confirmed as the man in the Wi Spa incident, he should not be accused.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Assorted sources say yes. Not sure if this response is actual "confirmation" or not.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think he is keeping it omnious because it's not him but he wants the attention for his shit "music"

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Sorry - no edit button for the title, but it should read "roughed up by Antifa "LGBT" supporters"

[–]GConly 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Trantifa.

[–]BEB[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've been calling it Trantifa for ages - I must have heard it somewhere, probably Andy Ngo's twitter timeline. Ngo often shows Antifa mug shots and a good % of the arrestees always seem as if they're trans-identified males.

[–]GConly 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a good % of the arrestees always seem as if they're trans-identified males.

I'd noticed this from Portland.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Andy Ngo

Is he the gaysian man who is an openly anti-trantifa conservative who was attacked by them some years ago? Or am I thinking of someone else?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully there's just the one 😬 yeah that's him, he was attacked again recently.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He is. IMO - and I hate Trantifa - he's not trustworthy, but no one can doubt his bravery.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sadly, it’s correct either way.

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Except for that bozo wearing the Rainbow Flag cape, I don't think that many of the counter-protesters had anything to do with LGB.

I didn't even spot a trans-identified male, but I have only seen a few clips. Then I also watched some of the end, but Trantifa had already retreated so I couldn't see if any were trans. But I did see a Rainbow Flag again, so I'm thinking LGB will, of course, get some of the blame.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah in one of the videos you can here them say "they stole that gay guys flag!" as if that was the worse thing that happened. one guy in the video go hit with what they said was a pipe.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I stand corrected: there was at least one trans-identified male at the protest. He was wearing a dress he claims "slays fascists." Wow - why didn't the troops try wearing "fascist-slaying" dresses at D-Day?

During the protest, he stole a sign from a protestor and ripped it up - video of that is popular on Twitter, but probably not in the way he wanted it to be.

Here's his twitter - the fascist-slaying dress, and then his boasts about how he and his pals shut down the Wi Spa protest.

https://twitter.com/RealJamiePenn/status/1411343683064983556

https://twitter.com/RealJamiePenn/status/1411414369494175744

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In a strong, healthy society, Antifa would not exist because they would have their asses handed to them. Instead, they are allowed to get away with their crimes, because they are backed by the government, the police and the banks. I will never forget the video where an Asian shopkeeper in an American city held an Antifa member at gunpoint for thrashing his shop.

Andy Ngo does a lot of work dealing with Antifa and trying to stop him. His YouTube channel might be of interest. He’s also gay.

[–]BEB[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The LAPD was right there and didn't intervene until after numerous innocent protestors were attacked. Before the protest, a GC feminist had called the LAPD and even talked to a desk officer in the Rampart division, who confirmed that the police would be out to protect protestors, but then the police just sat and watched.

The LAPD is not known as "Progressive," so either the virtue-signalling creeps who run LA told them to stand down, or the police themselves want the world to see what Antifa is really like so later they can move in and crush them.

[–]SkepticalHPSSuper Straight 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Police won’t step in because they’ll have their lives ruined if they try to stop them, even if they’re totally in the right. There’s a lot of apathy in American police departments and I can’t say I blame them, there’s no amount of money you could pay me to be a cop right now. I’m not some thin blue line idiot (I’m disgusted by videos of cops arresting people playing with their kids in the park in the name of “COVID safety”) but something has to give.

I’m thankful I chose to move to a state where I can conceal carry. It leads to these types behaving a lot better.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They've been battling with Antifa for years now, they were definitely told to stand down.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate the LA City Council and the Board of Supervisors. That fuckiest of fucktards, Kevin de Leon, slimed his way on to the LA City Council after leaving the Senate. De Leon was all in on the gender madness when he was president pro temp of the California state senate. Worm.

And then there's Mayor Garcetti, panderer extraordinaire - no wonder LA is rapidly descending into a Third World S-Hole (TM Donnie Dump ;-)

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The lesbian, Gaye Chapman, who was attacked, deserves support for trying to return AfterEllen.com to be about lesbians, not about men who claim to be lesbians. So please visit the site.

Disclaimer: I don't know her, and have nothing to do with After.Ellen.com (EDIT-it's AfterEllen.com) - I am just trying to get people to support lesbian publications because otherwise they will disappear.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good news (well, maybe): There was a member of the lgbtq community at the protest with a Rainbow Flag (which got snatched from him by Trantifa). He was using a megaphone to yell, “Pedophile is not a sexual orientation” “There is no P in LGBTQ”

https://twitter.com/SamBraslow/status/1411428493154426880

[–]chazzstrong 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to be 'that guy' for a moment.
The local and federal governments, both US and Canada ( and I guess the UK as well ), have shown they don't give a shit about this type of activity. This isn't going to stop until one day, these fascists round a corner and run into a sizable group of counter-protesters who beat the ever loving SHIT out of them all. Sadly, the last group that tried to stand up against them like that was the Proud Boys, and look what happened to them?

The MSM has done it's job, we're too divided to meet in the middle anymore. This won't end until one side is effectively dismantled.
I'm not an accelerationist, I'm a realist. This whole debacle happening in Western societies can only end with bloodshed.

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's deliberate. Some entity or a group of entities, want us ALL, not just in the US, divided and conquered. I don't say this lightly: My job used to be monitoring US and world events and trying to speculate what the outcomes would be.

Attacking the nature of life itself: our biology, and trying to gaslight us into doubting its reality, is a deliberate attempt to keep the masses off-kilter and at each other's throats.

There are other creepy goals of the gender movement, but, IMO, this is one of them.

And gender ideology isn't the only issue that these entities are using to divide and conquer us, but it's a very important and powerful one.