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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

It's a symptom of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Remember how in Snow White, the evil stepmother asked "Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" and if the Mirror said "Not you, sweetie!" she's go into a narcissistic rage? Well, we're the mirror, and women in general, especially lesbians, are Snow White. They are what the evil stepmother wishes she could be, but never will be. But if only that asshole Mirror would validate the stepmother, and we could all just pretend that she was a sexy catgirl UwU....

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, great analogy.

[–]julesburm1891 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In trans people’s heart of hearts, they know they aren’t really the opposite sex. They know there are differences and very few people will truly see them as they want to be seen. The entire trans identity is precariously perched on top of people playing along. The complete freakout that ensues from innocuous observations like “homosexual people don’t want people of the opposite sex” and “males are physically stronger and shouldn’t compete with women in athletics” shatter the illusion that trans people build their entire identity on. Essentially, they know their entire identity isn’t real and people disagreeing with them puts that ugly truth directly in front of their face.

[–]BEB 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because it's a religion now. There is a US cult expert who has now openly called the push to transition kids cult-like behavior. I will see if I can find his name again.

There is also an American woman, who seems to be well-versed in legal matters, gathering evidence to fight all the legislation being passed in the US on the basis that gender ideology is a religion and the First Amendment would therefore prohibit gender ideology being forced upon children in schools, etc.

Sorry, I don't have the links. If I get a chance, I will post them.

[–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh my god (no pun intended), godspeed to whoever that lawyer is.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you're talking about Steven Hassan, the creator of the BITE model:

My upset is that detransitioners have been treated like former members of a cult- denigrated, attacked, and minimized. Why can’t there be mutual respect and a desire to listen and learn? What I have learned after 44 years of activism is that taking a curious, respectful position assuming that I need to learn more, is the wise posture for all to take in this polarized world of information and disinformation wars.

Excerpt from "Evangelical Support of Trump, Authoritarian Politics, and Transitioning: A Discussion With Chrissy Stroop, Ph.D." link

Sounds to me like he wants to be diplomatic when approaching the topic, but the TRA's response of "that's not good enough" is alarming to him. And rightly so. I hope he tries to wrestle with this topic more and it will be interesting to see what conclusions he comes to. Though it's probably inevitable that the TRA's will push him away.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! Steven Hassan was the cult expert I had in mind. Thanks!

The more people who speak out, especially experts like Hassan, and especially LGB, the more targets the demented Transgender Demands Activists have to spew their lies about and the less seriously the TDAs are taken. So let's all speak out.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s an ideology. They want us to have a specific set of believes. You’re not allowed to question it, because the purpose of this ideology is control.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. It's not worth thinking about this phenomenon as anything other than an ideology. People will call you a heathen if you don't recite the catechism of Christianity (or Islam or whatever) and people will call you a transphobe if you don't recite the catechism of Gender Ideology.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, religious coexistence is somewhat new for the large scale. There were countless wars fought over these gods and who is going to heaven or hell. Today, most people of most religions don't actually follow the religions much, which creates the illusion of religious coexistence, when it is really fakers cherry picking which battles they actually want to fight. In the west, god is pretty much dead until someone is not straight. Bacon, tattoos, clothes with more than one material, those are all prohibited things that religious people ignore.

When it comes to trans, however, these people follow their holy texts to the letter. They don't allow people to coexist because they actually pay attention to the part of their ideology which says to indoctrinate everyone and kill all who oppose you. After failing all the crusades, christians just sort of gave up on that, which is why they're more chill in the modern world

[–]HelloMomo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, religious coexistence is somewhat new for the large scale. There were countless wars fought over these gods

That's a really good point.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Compare modern day "extremism" to the ancient crusades. Then, European superpowers funded an army to go to war and attempt to spread their religion violently. Now, a bunch of dudes in flip flops have to hijack vehicles or target large, crowded events in order to manage anything newsworthy. It is still abhorrent to murder people in the modern day over religious issues, but it isn't funded by legitimate governments as often anymore. I mean, the crusades, a much larger scale conflict, was not even considered extreme by anyone! No one argued that "real christians" don't crusade, but it is true that many modern muslims are very against extremism

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the funniest thing. I cannot believe they're the sex they aspire to be but I can still use their pronouns and name. Why so desperate to make me truly believe that a woman, who transitions into a man was never a woman biologically? Ah, this is called biological essentialism, which is transphobia, lol.

[–]fuck_reddit 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why was a lack of belief punishable by death for centuries? The same reason. The risk that non-belief can be equal or better to belief is too great a risk. Non-belief proves that belief is not necessary.

[–]MyLongestJourney 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is a silencing tactic.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because "gender" is fundamentally a social role. It's not about what you think of yourself; it's about what OTHERS-- society at large-- think of you. Specifically, how they perceive and treat you: their expectations of who you should be, and where you fit in.

Traditional gender-roles (male and female) are not only defined, and imposed, by society, they're entirely a matter of how you're perceived, since what triggers them is observation of your biological sex. As soon as people can tell that, you're gendered.

So this is what trans people expect: for gendering to come from the outside, automatically. Which it certainly does. But... based on their fee-fees: how they "identify". Which it certainly does not. Cuz that's not how gender works (or human psychology, for that matter).

They can't tolerate disbelief... because their gender-identity exists only in the minds of others.

[–]HelloMomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the biggest difference is that religion is mostly about your beliefs about the cosmos, where as gender ideology is about your beliefs about the other person, which inherently makes it much more personal.