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[–]fuck_reddit 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Wowowowowowow would you look at that? A straight person making a raging religious homophobe think gay guys like female genitals! How progressive! /s also they fucking have separate "gay" and "Achillean mlm uwu" flags. Fuck off, Achilles would NOT support this bs gender stuff. It baffles me how they have taken the (relatively) pro-gay (male) Ancient Greeks and turned their figures into representatives of straight people. "Achillean" and "Sapphic" make me sick to my stomach.

[–]shveya 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've reached the point that whenever I see someone describe themselves as "sapphic" online, I assume it's a man.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think there legit needs to be a shorthand term for lesbians and bisexual women though.

[–]fuck_reddit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Broke: Queer; Woke: Achillean, Sapphic; Bespoke: Straight

[–]DangerBoy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I'm gonna have to ask, why do some people use the term "MLM" instead of just Gay Man?

[–]julesburm1891 19 insightful - 13 fun19 insightful - 12 fun20 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

Because these are the same people dumb enough to partake in multi-level marketing.

[–]Shadow_Lurker 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you think about it, this whole transgender thing is very similar to a pyramid scheme, with the usual suspects on top (medical industry, professional activists, celebrities, and so on) and the people who were shamed and scammed into accepting this shit uncritically (liberal feminists, twitter 'allies', parents that puberty-blocked their children) on the very bottom.

[–]fuck_reddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the best answer.

[–]artetolife 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It has the word men in it, so it's super validating!

[–]just_lesbian_things 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think MLM includes bisexual men too. It's how WLW works- lesbian and bisexual women. I prefer it over "queer" or grouping bisexual women under the lesbian label. But mostly I just say lesbian and bisexual women if I'm referring to both.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, WLW and MLM are definitely better than "queer," although I'm starting to dislike them as well because more TQ+ people are using MLM to describe themselves (without realizing they aren't men...). It's just nebulous enough now that they've defined away the words "man" and "woman" that I don't trust it.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna have to ask, why do some people use the term "MLM" instead of just Gay Man?

Could it ever be for reasons similar to those motivating the use of "MSM" (= men who have sex with men)? That term was devised during the 1990s by epidemiologists, so they could study STDs among men without issues of sexual identity getting in the way. Whether "MLM" ever serves that purpose (maybe as a euphemistic substitute?: "it's not about ew-y stuff like sex, it's about oh-so-wholesome LOVE!"), or is used in good faith at all, I don't know.