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[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

If they want to have sex with men, they could easily have sex with straight men.

But that's not all they want, is it? The other part-- the screw-loose-y one-- is having sex with men AS a man. Where it confirms their so-called "gender identity". THAT'S the real point, here: sex as denial of reality. The reality being that they are women.

So the man MUST be gay. Nothing else will do. Because, otherwise... he's attracted to women, by definition. Which means that this might be why he's having sex with her. No matter what he says, or how often he calls her "bro"... even the possibility is a deal-breaker.

See also: "transbians" and lesbians.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If this is accurate, and I can't think of a better explanation, then this is probably the most profound manifestation of internalized misogyny possible.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that this is the case. While there are a few trans-identified people who probably aren't there for the fetish-- specifically, homosexual transsexual (HSTS) individuals and young women trying to escape the misogyny they face living as women-- fetishizing lesbians among men and fetishizing gay men among women run rampant among trans-identified people.

In fact: take it from the horse's mouth. Over 80% of r/MtF self-reported that they had a fetish before coming out as trans. (I haven't found a good survey yet for trans-identified women, but there are tons of examples with all the fujoshi stuff.) https://saidit.net/s/itsafetish/comments/68jm/over_80_of_the_people_in_rmtf_said_they_had_an/

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Here's an archive of the results: https://archive.vn/lm4ro

Not enough time to absorb all of that right now, but they seem to be mostly talking about themselves, not gay people they'd like to sleep with after transitioning, so I'm not sure if I'm picking up on exactly what you are seeing. But it's certainly true that to live that out with someone else they'd have to target gay people.

One hell of a rabbit hole.

ETA: "live [that] out" — missing word

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, I get what you mean, yeah I just meant to share that as an example of how widespread the fetish is. While theoretically they could date a bi person of the gender/sex they're trying to present as, there are many other comments I've seen, like the commenter above said, there is an abnormal emphasis on trying to pressure homosexuals to date them.

Makes me think, might be good to get a list going of the "I want to date homosexuals for validation" examples, for reference.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah if this is a thing, documenting it is significant.