Gay Men/r/askgaybros again under relentless attack from the valid uwu brigade

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

That's what I was wondering. The OP has a male name too (gaelic prince) so why not "Trans men are men"? Why cry about trans women in a sub for people who according to the current laws of trans, don't have to be attracted to trans women yet? I mean... Yes, it's coming, soon it's gonna be:

Gay men like trans men and trans men are actually women but we aren't allowed to say that, and gay men like cis men and cis men have penis, so if gay men don't like trans women, that's transphobic uwu.

[–]8bitgay 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Ah, but you can bet that these people think it's ok for trans women to be in gay dating apps and in gay bars. They aren't very consistent in their demands.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Seriously that was the stupidest plotline in Pose. The main character, a trans-lady, decides "she's" going to go sit in a gay bar and make all the gay dudes miserable for no reason, and of course it was depicted like "she" is the hero and the gay guys are the big meanies for kicking "her" out. Like... Hello? Didn't you say you're a woman??? So what are you doing in a gay bar? Why would gay dudes want women in the gay bar?

They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be "women", but they know the only chance they have at a boyfriend is a man who likes dick, whether it be a gay/bi bro, or a straight weirdo with a fetish.

[–]saged 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It makes no sense for the "transwomen are women" crowd, but I've heard of transwomen who say they are women on gay/bisexual apps, which tbh, if they like men it's best they go for men who are into them which would be a gay/bisexual men. People love to make this myth that NO gay man would be into a transwomen, and they'd rather be with a trans man.

Do people not know that transwomen have always been in gay bars, hanging with gay men, looking for gay/bisexual guys? When i used to go to gay clubs with my friend, i'd always see transwomen there. Gay men don't even kick ACTUAL women out of clubs even though they may not want them there all the time. That makes zero sense.

It's more TRA's pushing that they are women, so gay men have no use for them like they feel gay men have no use for women, when it's not true at ALL. There was a youtube whose boyfriend only dated men before they got with a trans girl, they were claiming he was "Straight" and i'm like, "no, he obviously likes dick havers, you have a dick, he's gay/bisexual but he's just dating a feminine dude now"

[–]artetolife 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This was once true but I don't see it anymore. Back in the day TW would hang out in gay bars because they lived most of their lives as gay men and that's where all their friends were, plus they were the only bars they could go to and not be ridiculed. These days if anyone said something mean to a trans person there'd be a pinknews article about it, the offender would be harrassed online and probably fired.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Haha you're right, I would at least see some drag queens there (or maybe I just assumed they were drag queens I guess.)

Here's the scene. It's way more cringier than I remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVzJsi2mhMw

[–]8bitgay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm sorry, we're not in drag, we're women" "Even better, we don't like women in here, we're a gay bar"

Wow, it's just like you said in response to me above. So you have to respect them as women... But you're also meant to accept them in a space where women aren't allowed? So, which one is it? Would they like it better if the waiter hd said "sorry, didn't notice you were a guy, now you're welcome here"?

And ugh the part about racism. They really needed to do that, uh? They always tie their issues with some other social issues too. So if someone points out how problematic the scene is, they can say "oh, so you think it's ok to segregate black people?".

[–]blackrainbow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's the same with ftms, they have always been in lesbian clubs or bars and there's nothing wrong with that. They lived a significant portion of their lives as lesbians, it's easy to relate with them

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    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That must be the most narcissistic piece of writing ever....

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVzJsi2mhMw

    It's like a Wattpad Marysue fanfiction come to life.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    WTF!!!!! I actually cannot believe that is serious!!!

    Oh my god. It reads like a parody. I am amazed. The only tip-off I had that it is actually serious, besides you mentioning it, was the eeeeevil bar manager casually being like "This bar is only for white people btw" like seriously? How do trans people think the world works???

    Thanks for sharing. Wow.

    [–]divingrightintowork 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "So what are you doing in a gay bar then?"