Hey TheTasteOfEspionage, thank you for sharing your thoughts. The reason I brought up the Sisters of Mercy t-shirt that said "fuck me and marry me young" is that, if you're going down the slippery slope of political correctness, that t-shirt too could be constituted as sexist or misogynistic or making fun of child brides, or making light of the infantilization of women. Once you get into that politically correct outrage-mindset, anything can appear to be offensive, including a band t-shirt with the statement "fuck me and marry me young.".

With regards to goths jumping on the band wagon of political correctness, denouncing supposed racism in goth (of which there is very little, but I guess when your head is a hammer everything is a potential nail) and declaring their support of BLM, What is the difference between this "listening to right wing bands will eventually turn you into a raving killing Nazi", and "watching BDSM movies will eventually make you rape and torture people and turn you into a literal Jack the Ripper"? Pray do tell, what is the difference between the two? I can definitely see the hypocrisy here in the one-sided slippery slope argument being made here. If you're gonna argue that things can become a slippery slope, why stop at condemning right wing bands? Go ahead and condemn all the gothic metal bands that have Christian iconography, since the Christian Church has killed millions around the world surpassing even the Nazis in kill-count. Metallica have a song called Creeping Death based on the story from the Old Testament, perhaps they are implicitly endorsing Israel's zionism and the killing of Palestinians in an act of crypto-islamophobia? Seriously, when you get on your moral high horse to ride it into the dark night, when/where do you stop? Nothing is ever politically correct enough for the politically correct purist.

I am still of the belief that these people denouncing Aurora's offensiveness completely misunderstand and misrepresent what the subculture gothic set out to accomplish for decades, which a form of radical individualism that is directly at odds with the aims of the SJW censorfascists. Anti-racism and progressive politics are nobel goals for sire, but that's not what the SJW censorfascists want, they just want to pull on people's heartstrings for the sake of gaining power and control. I am willing to bet these people denouncing Aurora have never really listened to or studied the lyrics of albums like Antichrist Superstar or Holy Wood. I know you're gonna say Manson is not gothic, but Manson was the gateway drug for a lot millennial goths. Manson's music was all about encouraging people to recognize the little Hitler inside themselves rather than projecting a holier-than-thou attitude like the author of this article. Instead of examining their own fascistic tendencies, these SJWs have absolved themselves of any blame simply because they assume themselves to have the right opinions and couldn't possibily be wrong. Manson had a chapter in his autobiography, The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions, a truism that is entirely lost on these self-righteous SJW censorfascists. I, at the age of 40, have no time to entertain this kind of SJW holier than thou purity-policing BS. I totally support Nargal's right to wear anti-Antifa shirts if he wants to - I particularly identify with Nargal (whose music I have posted in this sub) at a very deep level because like him I too spent most of 30s in the courts with ignorant malicious SJWs who wanted to censor me for speaking my truth. I also supported people's right to wear a "Jesus Is a Cunt" Cradle of Filth t-shirt back in the 1990s, no matter how much that offended the fundies. SJW censorfascists have no place in art and are the enemies of everything art aspires to and stands for. Rather than demanding that we unite against politician X and in favour of cause Y, I suggest we unite against these SJW censorfascists and put an end to their censorship under the guise of concern-trolling before it spreads like a plague through the arts. For if these SJWs get their way, you will not be able to speak out against politician X or in favour of cause Y when you personally want to if you allow such censorfascists to set the agenda for a whole movement.

I feel that gothic Youtubers and public figures, like for example Angela Benedict in her recent video, disingenously deny that Eurocentrism as a form white supremacy has always been part of the gothic subculture's DNA, and pretend that simplying denying this is how to declare yourself in allyship with blacks. Does Angela Benedict, who insists "blacks have always been part of gothic", actually read some of the comments left under her video by black people in goth?

Random black guy here. I've never seen another black person at a goth music event other than myself. I've never seen another black person who visually appears to be a goth. I've never seen a black person in any goth band except for the dude that was with The Cure way back in the day. Someone tell me some of these other bands so I can explore this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcbDVRADfF4&lc=UgzTsk2wGIQ5KrRK6894AaABAg

There would not have been white gothic music without black/Carribean dub music and you can quote me on this. The prominent bass that is so typical to gothic music is 100% derived from dub bass line. Just listen to She's In Parties, that's undeniably a dub riff.

However, white supremacy and Eurocentrism have also always been part of goth's DNA and it would be extremely disingenuous to deny this enduring aspect of the gothic timeline. Look for example at how respected the racist artist Allerseelen was in the gothic scene in the late 1990s/early aughts. No one ever called him out on his "Blood and Soil" bullshit when I was younger, even though his views were widely known. In fact, I myself once had a ballet review rejected from a website because I took a dance company to task for dancing to his music. I paid the price for calling out racism before it became profitable and acceptable to do so. I therefore laugh at all these SJWs-come-lately like Angela who only decided that they had a problem with racism in the goth scene when it became safe and cool to do so under the banner of woke culture.

I obviously don't know what your race is, but if you are a white person, go right ahead and become a cheerleader for BLM when you know they hate you just for being white, no matter how anti-racist your trackrecord consistently has been. Oh, and you don't get to claim any credentials for having an Asian or any other non-European ancestor with BLM, because Asians/Hispanics are now all of a sudden considered white too, and racist. In parting, I would encourage you to watch the following two video clips, if you can find the time:

https://twitter.com/GlennLoury/status/1343976246099775493

https://twitter.com/GlennLoury/status/1336823034393530368