Why I'm Quitting SaidIt - Part 1 The Intro

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-17T21:29:43+00:00

Why I'm Quitting SaidIt - Parts 1-5

Part 1 The Intro

Part 2 The Project Options I've Shared

Part 3 The Project Options Yet Unshared

Part 4 The Survey

Part 5 The Results

It's a process.

Would you prefer any of these titles for the series:

Why I'm Quitting SaidIt (been there done that).
Why I'm Not Actually Quitting SaidIt.
Why I'm Paradigm Shifting On SaidIt.
Why I Want You To Help Determine My Destiny.
What I'm doing next.
All of the above.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=demotivational+posters&iar=images

You said you don't care, yet you cared enough to be negatively critical, repeatedly. That's your prerogative. I can understand your confusion, though others don't seem to share it, and I even understand your dislike of self-promotional shit. But this is the world we live in.

You could argue that clickbait is akin to gaslighting except I clearly explained myself and my motives, so it's not actually deceptive.

I state in my post (and even in the sidebox), that I'm here for feedback. You can look at the rest of my user profile history to see that I'm not as active as I was.

Some of the options are serious. Some are definitely not. If I do my /s/LeverMind Variety Show project then I'll most certainly not be taking myself seriously at all.

astronautrob · 2021-04-16T00:15:47+00:00

But you're not quitting saidit, which is what you put in the title. Judging from the frequency of your comments you don't seem to be taking any different action. Question for you, Is not liking promotional clickbait titles deemed a "demotivational attitude"? Is demotivational even a word? Is it demotivational to point out something objective like, "Hey your titled clearly said one thing but that clearly isn't what you are saying in your actual post?" Is that called gaslighting or something? Either way, clickbait sucks and I don't know if it's necessarily required for self-promotion. Do what you do though my brother, I hope it works out for you. Don't take yourself too seriously though.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-16T00:00:23+00:00

Yet you care enough to chime in with your demotivational attitude. I am taking a stand and taking action greater than just sharing and commenting. Like it or not, being a content creator requires self-promotion. No one else will toot my horn - at least not until I get noticed and the work can speak for itself. This is the modern world.

astronautrob · 2021-04-15T12:56:02+00:00

Yea your right I don't care. Thought you were taking a real stand but instead it's click bait promotional garbage like the rest of this site. Thanks buddy

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-14T23:44:04+00:00

Thanks for the sentiment.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-14T23:40:11+00:00

Feel free to cringe until you get a stroke. Or better yet, find another website whose audience would be interested in your own banal shit.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-14T23:37:33+00:00

Specifically I'm quitting my news-sharing role here to do original content projects that I'll share and seek feedback on. The truth-seeker community feedback is the reason I joined SaidIt 2.5 years ago.

Maybe you don't care. That's fine. Many of my other friends will be interested.

As I stated - I know it's clickbait. I also want the most eyes and voices weighing in on my survey. This is promotional, building to decisions that will determine my fate for the next 5-10 years or more.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-14T23:30:59+00:00

I'll be posting the projects that will options to chose from. Be sure to shout about what speaks to you.

Chipit · 2021-04-14T17:05:28+00:00

Dude cares way too much about this website. "As I said, I've started composing this post many times. Some included deeper self analysis about myself" is pretty cringe. Just post links and write comments. Or better yet, find another website whose audience would be interested in the deeper self analysis.

astronautrob · 2021-04-14T15:59:04+00:00

You sure are replying a lot on this thread. Generally when someone says they are quitting something it doesnt mean you'll still be around but in a dimished capacity, it means you're done doing that thing. Sounds like you're just kind of quitting, which seems like a cop out but hey man do your thing. I just dont know of many people who just kind of quite something, its usually an all or nothing thing when you use language like that. So are standing for just kind of quitting something? Seems like some muddy ground to place the pedistool my friend.

Gravi · 2021-04-14T06:47:17+00:00

I mean if I am able and have the time, sure I could participate more. My interests are various and my talents and skills are various as well. I know languages, a bit of history there and there, I used to debate but I understood that it is a very stupid activity in the place where I did it, I am slowly learning to program in Python and HTML, there are probably many other skills and talents I have that I have not said but we'll see what I am good at later. Trial and Error.

solder0 · 2021-04-14T04:53:45+00:00

Whew, glad you're not gone. :) Yeah, re-evaluate, and re-focus.

Node · 2021-04-14T03:47:05+00:00

By the way, I ran across your engagement with a 'tribalist', and felt compelled to add my bit.

https://saidit.net/s/PhoenixForum/comments/7i60/my_vision_for_social_forums/t1x0

Horrux · 2021-04-14T00:54:53+00:00

I will definitely look into this.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T23:56:28+00:00

I am standing for something. Did you even read it?
In summary...

A: I'm quitting my SaidIt-sharing-focus to prioritize interactive projects to be shared on SaidIt.

Yes, this post title is obviously click-bait. I'm quitting SaidIt to stay on SaidIt.

Ultimately this means I'll no longer be sharing many posts, won't engage much in comments, and can't be up on all the latest current events - all this to become a counter-propaganda content creator and info-resistance organizer. [...] I anticipate your feedback to my occasional posts and invite your involvement to help shape those projects.

What would you have me do?

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T23:46:53+00:00

We're working on finding some new solutions. Get Session and join our chat if you like. https://GetSession.org Or hang tight. We'll soon be bringing the conversations back to SaidIt.

astronautrob · 2021-04-13T23:46:45+00:00

So you're quitting saidit but in one of the first comments you say "I'll still be around here", how does that work? Come on man at least stand for something.

Node · 2021-04-13T23:20:39+00:00

Good to see you haven't lost your enthusiasm. Having now had three of my primary commenting sites collapse into suicide or overt censorship in the past 6 months, I may be growing tired of the practice. (reddit was more like 7 years ago)

beece · 2021-04-13T22:26:35+00:00

15 words, good enough for me. Thanks! Have an upvoat. Looking forward to what you come up with Jason. 1 word, 1 word for the graduate: brevity.

Better said as: "Brevity is bliss".

Node · 2021-04-13T22:01:55+00:00

https://highexistence.com/the-wim-hof-method-revealed-how-to-consciously-control-your-immune-system/

Can't say this will have the effects Tom implies, but I do have this possibly better link.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T21:23:27+00:00

You mean you want to participate more in projects?

What are your interests, talents, skills, etc?

You need not be expert or even good. Fail, fail better, succeed, refine. Everyone starts somewhere.

Gravi · 2021-04-13T19:31:44+00:00

Well I guess this was the announcement I was waiting for. So this means I get to do something soon enough? If so can't wait.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T19:10:56+00:00

A: I'm quitting my SaidIt-sharing-focus to prioritize interactive projects to be shared on SaidIt.

beece · 2021-04-13T18:12:23+00:00

Sum it up in 10 words or less.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T13:14:16+00:00

Did you even read it?

What have you done for SaidIt lately - or at all?

Or to resist tyranny?

BadSprocket · 2021-04-13T03:16:58+00:00

Cool. Look forward to it.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T01:46:08+00:00

Someone else reported this for
1: Everyone knows it's at least in part affected by the LXXX drama, dude.

I don't even know what that means. What is affected? They have no influence on me other than I've minimized cross-posting.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-13T01:38:52+00:00

YES!!!

Doesn't even have to be with crayons.

I'll animate it, you'll see 2 versions of it basic coloured and outline version. If you like it, volunteer. All volunteers will get single frames. You colour it however you like. You can digitally Photoshop / GIMP it or print it out on a paper and hand colour it. Glue macaroni to it or use glitter if you want. Fill it in with flower petals or spices - or drugs. Whatever. Then take a digital photo or few of it and get it to me. I'll include as many of those images as I can, among my own.

I'll have inspirational examples in Part 4 Colouring Techniques.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-13T01:32:25+00:00

This may kick-start your recovery.

Wim Hof - Wim Hof Method - Leech from Torrent to direct links

10/10 would recommend to a friend. Guaranteed to activate life force you never knew existed.

Also, I'm not sure if this is a good quality link, or not.

Edit: Beast Mode is real.

BadSprocket · 2021-04-13T01:25:33+00:00

Have crayon, will color

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-12T22:41:45+00:00

Drag man. Good luck with all that.

My Open-SaidIt-Project Animation #1 - Part 1 The Pitch will be simple enough to help on. I'll animate it, you'll see 2 versions of it basic coloured and outline version. If you like it, volunteer. All volunteers will get single frames. You colour it however you like. You can digitally Photoshop / GIMP it or print it out on a paper and hand colour it. Glue macaroni to it or use glitter if you want. Fill it in with flower petals or spices - or pot and your meds. Whatever. Then take a digital photo or few of it and get it to me. I'll include as many of those images as I can, among my own.

Horrux · 2021-04-12T21:58:38+00:00

Between the cancer, heavy metal toxicity and lyme disease, I'm functional for 4 hours on a good day, and I can stay concentrated enough to read for maybe a couple bouts of 30 minutes. It cuts down on the getting involved into projects thing.

I mostly involve myself with fixing my health now. But thanks.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-12T21:02:58+00:00

LOL. Thanks. I'll still be around here. I'll still have a "non-life", but I'll be focused on my projects. I hope you might find some interesting enough to participate in.

Horrux · 2021-04-12T20:58:14+00:00

Good decision IMHO. Not that I won't miss you, I will at least moderately. But you've invested too much time in this non-life pastime for it to be healthy, and I am pleased that you are taking care of #1.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-12T20:31:46+00:00

Someone reported this for
1: <no reason> ?

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-09T18:38:57+00:00

I've already written Part 2 but won't bother posting it unless/until this gets at least a little notice.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-09T16:54:11+00:00

I can agree with much of that, from the perspective we're all supposed to buy into: authority.

Decentralization is the natural order of things. We're working on restoring it.

Node · 2021-04-09T02:32:42+00:00

Actually, most interactions are voluntary, not by orders from above by some great decider.

I mean more that most things like businesses, organizations, and enterprises you'd interface with are started and operated by one person, or a small group of people. They typically set standards for acceptable behavior, as one would do for people visiting their home.

The voluntary part is when you consider whether or not their standards are a match with your standards, and decline to engage if they're not. However, limited other options complicates that when your goal is interacting, because then you have to just choose the closest fit, even if there are mismatches.

One could use the freely available code to make a new reddit clone like saidit, but that's an extreme amount of work when the original goal was just to exchange comments with other people online.

Node · 2021-04-09T02:00:18+00:00

Bobbobbybob was your fellow kiwi. Most of the people in those links are in VA or WV.

Are you on the north or south island? I've recently spent a couple hours looking around the south island on google street view. Lots of amazing scenery.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-08T14:43:54+00:00

Thanks for the thread link.

That is just so fucking sad.

M7 feels like he's being ganged up on because he's being as dense as a brick wall - then he seeks solace in the only friendly words that come his way.

Worse is his stupid fucking "logic" that I even felt compelled to chime in on. If I was still in protest mode I'd go off on that more.

Chipit has lied repeatedly and is a stupid tribalist shill, paid or not. Not name-calling, fact-calling.

LarrySwinger2 · 2021-04-08T12:51:44+00:00

Shame that Airbus troll, Chipit bot, and socks shill are still here.

It's worse than that. Dipshit is gaining m7's trust through low effort comments, reflecting m7's thoughts back to him and flattering him. It appears m7's falling for it. Here's the thread in question. What's gonna happen now? Is Dipshit going to call who is and isn't a troll, and will m7 ban people based on that? This is disconcerting.

d3rr · 2021-04-08T04:51:32+00:00

Snow loved zhe's mechanical keyboards. That's what I keep and eye out for.

Enza · 2021-04-08T03:54:53+00:00

A fellow kiwi on SaidIt?!

🤔🧩🍻

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-07T12:48:49+00:00

/s/CriticalThoughts/comments/7ozk/moving_forward_lets_discuss_fair_open_accountable/

socks · 2021-04-07T12:44:44+00:00

(Stop whining and feel free to discuss solutions when you feel better.)

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-07T12:32:54+00:00

Lame shill response.

I don't know you at all.

You've offered ZERO proof that you've watched them.

You've offered ZERO proof that he's a shill for the 1% or that he favors authoritarianism.

You've offered ZERO proof that Corbett doesn't have credibility. Seems like you don't.

You haven't countered any specifics against his well-supported claims.

ALL of his content is AGAINST the establishment. You'd know that if you watch ANY of it.

You are a liar and I can't trust what you claim.

And you're a timesuck wanting me to waste time "in my own words" on a shill.

I agree with 99.99% of James Corbett, Whitney Webb, Ryan Cristian, Derrick Broze, Ben Swan, Kim Iversen, Jimmy Dore, Truthstream Media, reallygraceful, Ice Age Farmer, etc.

You want solutions? Look up "solutions" on TheCorbettReport.com and/or go to the Ice Age Farmer and/or The Conscious Resistance sites.

Suck a dick if that's not good enough for you.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-07T12:03:05+00:00

I'm all for parallel alternatives bro.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-07T11:56:17+00:00

Yes, as I said above:

" Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc. If I act like an asstroll I should be ejected. If I'm bringing the goods and building the community then it's OUR shared space and earned my place. He's not the boss of me nor anyone else. Sure it's his site but it's OUR community and everyone should be free to voice their opinions, even if you are the guy bitching about the DJ. People are free to ignore that guy. People are free to tell him to shut up. I have support and criticism and everything between. "

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-07T02:52:13+00:00

Snow was pretending.

Even basic English speakers know to use grammar checking software for English forums.

Google Translate at a minimum.

That's internet English 050 (no college credit). Grade school level. ;-)

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-07T02:47:11+00:00

Your analogy is flawed.

This site and those businesses are OPEN to the public, regardless of who owns them.

Saidit is open to the public.

Those businesses will all kick out disruptive customers.

Saidit doesn't even require you to wear a face diaper.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T23:50:56+00:00

Mirrored:
/s/CriticalThoughts/comments/7ozk/moving_forward_lets_discuss_fair_open_accountable/
/s/DecentralizeAllThings/comments/7ozj/moving_forward_lets_discuss_fair_open_accountable/

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T23:50:05+00:00

Mirrored:
/s/CriticalThoughts/comments/7ozk/moving_forward_lets_discuss_fair_open_accountable/
/s/DecentralizeAllThings/comments/7ozj/moving_forward_lets_discuss_fair_open_accountable/

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T23:49:49+00:00

I've shared some of my thoughts on and experiences of Burning Man. Some prudes here don't even want to know that I hosted 8 orgies much less know any details about The Great Canadian Beaver Eating Contest, as titillating as it may be.

hennaojichan · 2021-04-06T23:47:24+00:00

Will do, when I find it. There is some inertia to overcome. Will send it back channel.

hennaojichan · 2021-04-06T23:45:07+00:00

I have to go back a month or two in my posting records to see what his username is but that might defeat his purpose.

socks · 2021-04-06T20:21:03+00:00

Thanks for the answer. (No need to respond to this additional point, below.)

Perhaps we could start a political movement that would pressure the US Government into allowing Texas secede.

But seriously, smaller government means less regulation for all of benefits of our quality of life. As has been shown, states will abuse their populations mercilessly, because of the corrupt systems already in place in many states.

Optimus85 · 2021-04-06T20:08:27+00:00

OK. Maybe not 100% idle. You might've just swayed me with your unflappable optimism. :)

Zapped · 2021-04-06T19:54:42+00:00

You should string together some longer posts of your worldly adventures, especially Burning Man. I'd read them.

Zapped · 2021-04-06T19:32:26+00:00

You start another site and I'll help how I can, if only to see if it's viable in the long term. I'm sure M7 would give you pointers. Surely, there are others on here who can provide technical support. I recently met a guy who is part of a small, worldwide team that successfully put together and marketed a video game on multiple platforms. He lives a modest life and I would have no idea other than he mentioned something in conversation and I asked him for more details.

d3rr · 2021-04-06T19:18:24+00:00

I'm all for the government directly employing unskilled labor to work on infrastructure projects. But following on the heels of the great depression, anything could have been called a great success.

How many more new deals can we have before income tax is 80% and the middle class is entirely dead? The Federal Reserve failed their mission, the New Deal failed their mission, big government is not the answer.

I favor decentralized strong states. The federal government was framed with a very limited set of responsibilities for a reason.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T18:57:55+00:00

That was dope, a lot of it seemed ahead of its time!

Thanks. LOL, I won't argue with that. Some of it's dated now, mostly 90s. I was drawing Monsters High and Bratz-like grrls long before they were ever a thing. And before I knew what real spy craft is about I was developing a 6-girl team called Fashion Action, fashion models by day, secret agents by night. Ignorant propaganda glamorizing evil-doers, long before Kim Possible existed too.

I saw a good amount of designs that would make cool embroideries for hoodies and clothing imho.

I think my old Café Press stuff is still up. Some of it was for a toy store, and eco clothing line, this, that, whatever, etc etc etc.

One of my projects I'll be outlining is a community store for us to sell our own stuff (homemade things, crafts, flee market, designs printed on things, and even 3D printed stuff) in our own sections, as well as sections for SaidIt, WikiSpooks, etc.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T18:46:27+00:00

Your analogy is flawed.

This site and those businesses are OPEN to the public, regardless of who owns them.

Sure it would be nice if there was no government nor regulations, but anarchy is a dream.

So we have the laws of the land, good, bad, and ugly. That means free speech technically should exist and discrimination is technically forbidden. Racist store owners cannot ban people and unless you shout fire in a crowded theater you can share your ideas. OPEN to public, privately owned or not.

I'm surprised you are taking this stance, the same but much bigger regarding the rights of government-funded Corporate Social Media to freely censor their monopoly platforms that are essentially the public square or commons.

There is virtually no lock on the door here, by choice, for anon users without any verification. A questionable choice IMO. Much different than the Corbett Report limited access forum for example, open yet private, requiring donations (or a special invitation for me) and email registration. Even more limited, my old site was just my own content with zero social media.

Enza · 2021-04-06T18:37:32+00:00

You did that artwork? That was dope, a lot of it seemed ahead of its time! I saw a good amount of designs that would make cool embroideries for hoodies and clothing imho.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T18:30:48+00:00

Ya, I'm not convinced at all. Better to battle over the obvious words and actions - there's more than enough.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T18:26:45+00:00

Airbus is certainly not the worst, nor dangerous like faux-progressive vaxx shill socks, nor stupid like tribal conservative dipshill Chipit. Like Bob he's been occasionally insightful - but also a stalking shit disturber, apparently immune from the wrath of M7.

I've been bored of it for some time too. Boredom has it's utility too. That said, I'm very curious how my next post will be received by everyone.

Actually, I had seriously considered for my return from banning utilizing the Chris Sky vs 30 Cops video as a comparison to myself v M7, but it was not only bad fit, a bad look, a bad comparison, too much room for confusion, too long a clip, etc etc etc. I didn't even look for better/shorter clips. I greatly appreciate his efforts and really really really hope he doesn't become a martyr. IF the powers that be are smart they can figure out a way to utilize the situation in their info-war somehow that may work for their sheeple (all they need is to maintain the majority), but with their monopoly on violence and stupidity of their muscle minions you just never know. If it does end for him (or anyone), better fast than drawn out.

fschmidt · 2021-04-06T18:16:22+00:00

There is a solution - religion. The point of religion is to herd humans in a reasonable direction. Without religion, humans are just herded by the sociopaths in charge, which is where we are now.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T18:04:14+00:00

Thanks LOL. I started classical animation then computer animation at college near Toronto in 1989. I've worked in NY, Toronto, Vancouver, SF, Austin, etc. animating, live action art directing, animation directing, directing, etc. and of course countless other creative projects.

I aim to delve back into the creative realm again, now armed with deep knowledge about the levers of power. Cartoons are one option.

socks · 2021-04-06T17:40:43+00:00

It saved the US from a 60 year period of bankrupting policies that were destroying the country, and the 1% were driving all of that corruption. The New Deal invested in the 99%. 2/3rds of the economy that is supported with purchases began to boom, because people had salaries. Without this, the country would not have been prepared to enter WWII, after which began the baby boom and the American Dream. This American Dream is no longer available for the 99%, because of the corruption of the 1%. Another New Deal will be necessary, or the "American Experiment" (in democratic representation) will be over.

Do you favor authoritarianism?

d3rr · 2021-04-06T17:39:05+00:00

Maybe but I don't think so. Snow could barely talk US politics, zhe was all caught up in incels. Meanwhile Chipit can and speaks proficient english.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-06T17:25:51+00:00

Airbus is alright. He calls it like he sees it (from where I'm sitting anyway).

I suspect he messes with you; for the same reason you were banned.

I'm glad your back, but bored of the drama.

Fucking bored of it, bro. Welcome back.

Also, are you familiar with Chris Sky?

d3rr · 2021-04-06T17:12:30+00:00

The New Deal started this rush towards a big federal government, I don't think that or democracy is the answer.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-06T16:28:03+00:00

Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc.

These examples are all private.

The analogy is legit.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T16:05:55+00:00

He only intervenes when issues are created.

Usually. He intervenes with me when he wants to create issues.

You're basically showing up to a party at his house, where you habitually carry on about how the party could be better if he did XYZ.

Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc. If I act like an asstroll I should be ejected. If I'm bringing the goods and building the community then it's OUR shared space and earned my place. He's not the boss of me nor anyone else. Sure it's his site but it's OUR community and everyone should be free to voice their opinions, even if you are the guy bitching about the DJ. People are free to ignore that guy. People are free to tell him to shut up. I have support and criticism and everything between.

100% a dick move.

What is?

He graciously let you back in to the party, so you could dignify this gesture.

LOL. He should have never banned me, slandered me, stalked me, and targeted me with his several arbitrary bullshit rules made for me.

Let him be. Or make your own party bungalow.

The next forum will not be mine - it will be OURS. It's not "if" - it IS happening. People needed to see the problems and be motivated, unfortunately.

Doing both would be ideal.

After today the problems will be dropped to focus on solutions.

Part of the branding/propaganda/whatever I plan to utilize over and over and over again will be something like this: "We obviously have problems, but we're working on solutions." We'll need to never forget that we currently have these problems but we're not gonna blame nor dwell on them any more with grander plans for a brighter future. Some people may get bored of this if it's not creatively and interactively done well (developing manifestos, policies, rules, name contests, logo contests, etc etc etc). Ideally it should build up anticipation and a desire to finally try it out and/or outright migrate. All the while we must repair the community with hope and restore good will within it while not abandoning our history, our purpose, and our more stable resilient future.

Very soon I hope to have the others join me in these development discussions in the wide open.

Parties suck if nobody shows up, but they don't happen if there's no place to party.

Truth. I've had a handful of dismal misfires along with vast experience in the art of throwing epic parties. My nickname was "jSunshine", not earned from nothin.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T15:39:00+00:00

but it's the way most things work

Actually, most interactions are voluntary, not by orders from above by some great decider. And even hierarchies have branches (along with checks and balances) not a one dimensional ladder with only up and down.

Yes, the choices currently are limited. This is changing. Evolving.

Jesus-Christ · 2021-04-06T14:38:46+00:00

Seems like the roof is falling in.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-06T14:04:23+00:00

I actually feel bad for M7 but he's been bringing this all on him self. He chooses this path and to be mostly solo

He only intervenes when issues are created.

You're basically showing up to a party at his house, where you habitually carry on about how the party could be better if he did XYZ.

100% a dick move.

He graciously let you back in to the party, so you could dignify this gesture.

Let him be. Or make your own party bungalow.

Doing both would be ideal.

Parties suck if nobody shows up, but they don't happen if there's no place to party.

Node · 2021-04-06T13:42:12+00:00

It doesn't have to be one person going it alone. It doesn't have to be one person's choice. It doesn't have to be a singular judge, jury, and executioner.

It doesn't have to be, but it's the way most things work. Problems arise when there's a mismatch between the one person and the community. Ideally, the system would result in a closer match in values between members and operators, but the choices are limited.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-06T13:19:26+00:00

Useless Aether is still around with a different name.

You don't suppose UA could be Amy Chandler ?

I don't either.

Just saying.... ;-)

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:52:03+00:00

Chipit is /u/silly.

socks · 2021-04-06T12:50:42+00:00

^facts

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:49:23+00:00

It grows on you.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:44:35+00:00

Mind sharing that with me and/or Larry in a PM?

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:43:45+00:00

I still have that album on vinyl. Snow haunts us worse in Canada.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:38:49+00:00

Almost a perfect term for this. I knew about it but had forgotten the term, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory. I say almost because there's much more to it. Yes. The phoenix will also rise.

One of my goals has been to get M7 to evolve, not destroy SaidIt nor the community. If this means a couple months of exposing his inadequacies then so be it. I certainly don't wish to drag anyone else into the drama I've chosen to create. I've left out MANY names and I have avoided exposing him much more deeply and I have no interest in utterly shredding him. I've only drawn on recent events. It would be easy to compile lists of examples just from my limited experience and recollections and/or to ask for more. That's unnecessary.

I actually feel bad for M7 but he's been bringing this all on him self. He chooses this path and to be mostly solo - and to alienate people in general.

The beaten dead horse is a skeleton and the emperor wears no clothes. We all see it. This has all been necessary to motivate the folks to the changes we NEED as times are strange, the global tyranny WILL get worse, and things will never get better unless we all collectively prepare our resistance properly. Cory Doctorow said years ago something to the effect that open freedom of communications must be our top priority as everything else is dependent on it. Call me a manipulative social engineering manufacturing consent bastard if you like. Ugly as it may be I've been doing it all in the open with authentic honest intentions being as clear as I can be, whether anyone agrees or not.

Another purpose should be obvious. I've been preparing, inquiring, investigating, and pontificating on a new forum. I do not want to set up my own home servers or home gardens but I know we all need to. It needs to be done to prepare for the future before it's too late to organize properly to resist the technocracy. Not just a guy or two - but ALL of us co-hosting our own instances.

None of this would be possible without propelling the NEED for change, not just a vague want. I'm certainly no mastermind nor some villain, but M7 took every single bait because he's been too busy with whack-a-troll, finding enemies everywhere, even when they are not. This needed to come forth for general justice and for motivation to evolve, with or without him. Sure I took some calculated risks. I knew I could be banned. Either way it would not look good for him. Pros and cons for either.

Maybe all this is just a shitty excuse for my shitty post. But I still think it was as necessary as it was calculating while also being honest. I'm not David and he's not Goliath, but he certainly has several advantages yet stoops to lying, smearing, and nonsense instead of being better. That only makes it worse. More importantly, the censored post was the first time I'd actually asked the community for their valuable feedback and almost all of it was excellent even with diverse views until the interruption. Obviously none of it is a clear cut case.

Today will be my last attempt to ask for a discussion, though obviously not M7's last chance for redemption, which may be a pipe dream. Then I'm done with all of this to wrap up my SaidIt-wide stuff and "quit SaidIt" to focus on my projects, with or without the participation of you, M7, and everyone else. Preferably with.

SaidIt is about more than the owner. Now that it's open and honestly exposed, we can address it, fix it, build on it, and plan for the future. Drama has a purpose, in stories and in life. We wouldn't appreciate the highs without lows and vice versa. With this shitty shit behind us (at least for my part) we can accept it and move on, evolve, and do better. Critically we need as many people to collaborate in decentralizing too or else you just get 2 guys with 2 sites instead of 1 pretending they're resilient. Most of us recognize there are problems. We have solutions to some of them and a few are willing to take steps. There is no need to demonize if there's now a way forward. (By the way, I've never demonized M7. He's been the one to stalk, stoop, and slander. I've only pointed it out.)

SaidIt is built on the shoulders of ye olde Reddit giants, and whatever comes next will be built on the shoulders of the M7 D3 SaidIt giants. Like it or not, all these trials and tribulations are the legacy and a credit to their critical blood sweat and tears along side the tenacity of the sharing community and their critical and critical (2 meanings) content.

Tom_Bombadil · 2021-04-06T12:31:54+00:00

But some of you guys still think /u/snow is around too.

Chipit is snow. 100%.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T12:01:39+00:00

I hope we can all discuss things properly.

This.

It also means without spin, manipulation, deception, and slander.

I'm hoping you and everyone will help me bring them forth. I'm doing my best to come up with ways make them interactive to not only make my work a little lighter (maybe not actually), make the projects more interesting and engaging, and of course build community and spread ownership. You'll soon see what I mean. Obviously we all have diverse interests and skill-sets, but together I think we can move mountains even if we can't move M7 too much.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:54:24+00:00

Thanks, I think. The goal was and is discourse. The arguments arise from deception.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:51:59+00:00

Thanks. Soon, I'll be primarily posting only music with the occasional draft of something or other. My paradigm shift will swap out my addiction to inputting information with inputting music so I can better focus. I may even dare to have silence now and then.

Me either. Prince's backwards fall was kinda neat but obviously staged and a corny gimmick - and I suspect that's why they didn't cover it well.

socks · 2021-04-06T11:51:16+00:00

I see - back to full-on black pill are we.

(Stop whining and feel free to discuss solutions when you feel better.)

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:45:13+00:00

Who threw those eggshells down? Tyranny. It doesn't have to be like this. It doesn't have to be one person going it alone. It doesn't have to be one person's choice. It doesn't have to be a singular judge, jury, and executioner. These should be community choices or at least choices from authentic community representation. Will there be challenges when the community grows? Fuck ya. Deal with those, together, as they develop.

I don't know how Reddit was when they had these issues, but obviously something went wrong well before they sold out. Might have simply been the absence of decentralization, though I suspect it was a confluence of circumstances, intentional and/or not, that created the perfect storm that it's become.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:39:02+00:00

If I thought it would help I'd start another protest. Perhaps a petition in /s/SaidItSurveys might be in order. Dare to do so at your own peril.

After my post today I'm done with the problems to focus on solutions, with or without M7.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:27:39+00:00

^ THIS, A MILLION PERCENT.

Except maybe the idle part. Help organize the solutions. After my post today I'm done with the problems to focus on solutions.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:23:30+00:00

Lies

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:22:10+00:00

Ooooh, I do hope so.

The ruling class is desperate enough to wage class war. They own everything so they have everything to lose. The masses have only their lives to lose. Unstoppable force vs immovable object.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:18:19+00:00

Lies

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:18:13+00:00

Lies

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:16:47+00:00

Corbett is a professional attention whore

Who isn't in media? Who isn't in forums? If you don't want people to read your shit, why share it? Maybe you should start a private diary and focus ALL of your energy there.

and shill for the 1%.

This has been alleged before, but with zero proof. Outrageous claims require outrageous evidence. Present it.

The single trend in all of his rants and arguments favors authoritarianism.

100% inverted bullshit. How can you even claim that with a straight face? You're the one who loves authority and experts.

100% proof socks is an ignoramus or shill.

And as you know, I want to hear what you have to say - in your own words - that addresses solutions.

100% timesuck.

Corbett doesn't have credibility. If you are credible, mention your solutions.

More lies. He perpetually mentions solutions WITH citations - unlike most corporate media whom you shill.

For example, you support the Green Party in Canada.

Not actually true. They are the least sucky party. They still have HUGE fucking problems. The Climate Change scam distracts from real environmental activism and perpetuates scientism which is obviously a 2020+ problem. Many of them are SJWs. They still believe in "authority". If there was a Minarchist Party I'd support that. My Green Party support is more of a protest vote and support for anything but the status quo.

This is excellent, if it's in an area where the green party can have a chance of winning. Younger supporters will likely join you.

Will they though?

No more for you today timesuck, and my day has just begun.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T11:05:30+00:00

I didn't even know Bob³ was a "her" until this week. How did I miss this? How long have folks known? Perhaps the biggest question: Would I have acted any different?

I don't understand. How bad could the fake images be? If they were fake why didn't M7 just say so? Perhaps the biggest question: Why was Musky guilty?

What is "deleted password"? I have yet to even finish catching this post. Maybe I should read those first. Thanks again.

JasonCarswell · 2021-04-06T10:57:32+00:00

Ew. Morbid. Maybe I should take a few old photos and stitch them together and label them: "Before, During, and After Big Pharma Poisons". I was always moderately to very fit until this. I know it's a vanity thing. I don't rationally know how to get past it. It was very difficult for many years, but I've since accepted it. I'm grateful to have 97% of my mind back now, so I aim to at least put that to use.

socks · 2021-04-06T10:31:39+00:00

NWO = New World Order?

If so - you've likely seen attenpts by the 1% to arrange this NWO. Reversing their approaches will depend on the motivation of the 99% to act against authoritarianism and promote democracy. It happened before, as part of the New Deal

You are a liar and I can't trust what you claim.

^ THIS, A MILLION PERCENT.

Lies

Lies

Lies

100% proof socks is an ignoramus or shill.

100% timesuck.

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