It's almost as though it's a serious mental illness

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[–]Poppy29252 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Is it perhaps that people see a removal of their genitalia as throwing away sexuality

Anyone who believes that is vanilla as fuck

Fucking prude cishet colonists, using their sex organs to have sex.

[–]our_team_is_winning 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm currently looking to have my vagina conpleatly surgically removed. Its a procedure that's been done before and it seems like my dad has found some people willing to do it.

And I thought MY dad was an abusive ahole! Father of the Year here. /s

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In most other circumstances the law would consider this female genital mutilation and in many western countries the father would be imprisoned, but because of a diagnosis of gender dysphoria it's being celebrated by some. Absolutely heartbreaking.

[–]Chunkeeguy[S] 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

Bonus points for : "My sex life doesn't even revolve around my genitals."

[–]RiverSong 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Another post she made: "I'm agender, and few people nowadays can tell weather I'm afab or amab (I'm afab). My gf (she's only kind of my gf, but I touched her boob once) though I had a dick when she first met me."

I mean ... she touched her boob once ... of course her genitals are not involved in any kind of sex life, if that is the height of the sexual relations she has with her "kind of gf".

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm convinced that the older males driving this movement are sick sex-addicted fetishists who will and do stick their dicks into anyone and anything - and the young people of both sexes who've adopted trans ideology mostly have had very little in the way of consensual, mutual and willing RL sexual interactions with another person. Many seem to have had no face to face, flesh & blood sexual experience with another person at all. And those who have had skin to skin sexual contact with someone else often seem to have such contact at the hands of someone older and more powerful who is sexually abusing them.

My guess is, if her father really has found a surgeon to remove his daughter's vagina, he's done so coz he's a pedophile who raped her as a child - and now that she's no longer a child and he's outgrown his sexual interest in her, he wants to make sure that neither she nor anyone else gets to use the vagina he once considered "his" for their own pleasure or for the biological purposes it's meant to serve (menses exiting from the body, conception, childbirth).

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've long maintained that it is autogynephilic men that are a significant, if not the most significant contributing factor to the mess. They've been handed a very compelling sexuality that conflicts with reality. What they so deeply wish, what is so pleasing to them, just isn't the case. That sets up an incredible cognitive dissonance, and you see the results. Some figure it out, and can come to understand and integrate that they have a paraphilia. Many do not.

[–]RiverSong 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna be honest here: 2 years ago I would have thought "what a sick and perverted mind comes up with an outrageous theory like that?"

Now I think "oh, well, she could be onto something with that. sounds kind of plausible." :(

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any doctor that would perform that surgery on what sounds like a minor should be in jail.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just assumed it would be a doctor in South America somewhere.

[–]Finnegan7921 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where to begin ? First off, 18 and cannot spell completely. Bad. Claims her g/f is straight. Nope, she's a lesbian. Wonders why people are obsessed with genitals, yet sees genitals as the root of issues which will magically go away once she has them "removed". "I won't be negatively impacted in any way." How is anyone this stupid ? Removal of any major body part will result in a negative impact, especially one with a major function such as excretion. "I'll still be able to have sex by fingering..." so her goal is to be a walking, talking sex toy ? "I'll probably still be able to masturbate." No she won't. This is the result of indulging mental illness. Some messed up kid who is going to mutilate herself and then regret it when she is a complete disaster at 30 b/c she'll keep going further down the rabbit hole to try and fix what ails her while not realizing that it is all in her head, not in her pants.

[–]absoluteblasphemy 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So disturbing. There was a guy from the U.K. who got himself nullified abroad, complete removal of the male genitals, he was butchered. I mean what can you expect from the ethic and ability of a “surgeon” willing to do that. There is no safely removing people’s entire sex organs, they’re important.

U.K. National Health Service wouldn’t touch him. Don’t think I’ve seen the British public go so quiet in a long time, like what do we do with that? This is the extreme but logical conclusion of the trans movement, complete insanity and complete disregard for the sanctity of the body.

And it’s not even the first I’ve heard it.

[–]bolla_top 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are plenty of "doctors" in the Middle East and Africa who would be happy to nullify her (they call it circumcision, or FGM). They may even be able to arrange a marriage for her as a bonus.

She may disappointed that no one is fawning over how super duper special and unique and brave she is though in a country where a large proportion of girls have no choice in whether or not to be nullified.

[–]WildApples 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So much is wrong with this that I hardly know where to begin...

1) How can one be so dysphoric over one's vagina? Unlike a penis, it is discreet and not at all obtrusive. You really have to make a concerted, intentional effort to interact with the vagina, so it would be pretty easy to ignore it and pretend it does not exist if that is what you're going for. And these people are usually expert at ignoring material reality...

2) Remove the whole thing? How is that even possible? How would she menstruate? Or would the doctors also be removing her uterus and ovaries as well? Is being a menopausal teenager what she is aiming for?

3) I hate how TRA dogma treats the body as a collection of useless, disconnected parts. The body is brilliant and operates as an interrelated system. Removing functional parts of your body for no reason will result in collateral damage, including major long-term health problems, I'd wager. The body is incredible and will compensate as best it can to keep you functioning, but that does not mean harm is not being done.

4) Her only stated interest in sex is in giving, not receiving, and she is thinks she might still be able to masturbate without a vagina but is not sure. I'm calling it: she has not experienced an orgasm yet, vanilla or otherwise. I wonder if having one would help her start to have a more positive relationship with her genitals. I hope someone lets her know that a woman can climax without touching her vagina, but the end result will be a lot less impressive without a vagina, if it is even possible to orgasm (or live?) without one.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1) How can one be so dysphoric over one's vagina? Unlike a penis, it is discreet and not at all obtrusive. You really have to make a concerted, intentional effort to interact with the vagina, so it would be pretty easy to ignore it and pretend it does not exist if that is what you're going for. And these people are usually expert at ignoring material reality...

If this person is real, my hunch is that from a young age she has been/was sexually abused in ways that involved penetration of her vagina probably with a penis, perhaps other things too.

Also, if she's 18, she's probably been menstruating for circa 7 years, meaning more than 50% of her lifetime that she can remember. Lots of girls from an early age have menstruation-related problems such as severe cramping, heavy bleeding and clotting, spotting throughout the month when not menstruating, unusually frequent periods, PMDD. Many girls with such problems have had internal exams of or through their vaginas that they found distressing and which caused them to feel shame. Moreover, in many families and social milieus, period shaming is a big deal.

These sorts of experiences are definitely obtrusive and tend to center one's vagina in the conscious awareness of an affected girl/woman.

A girl who is being sexually abused by means of rape by a penis has the extra constant worry that she might be pregnant. Quite a number of girls with a history of being sexually abused by rape have become pregnant and have had terminations, miscarriages or had to carry the pregnancy to term. Aretha Franklin became pregnant with her first child at 12, gave birth at 12/13, then gave birth to her second child at 14. This used to be be fairly common, and still is in many places in the world today.

So while anatomically, the vagina is discreet and unobtrusive, many girls and women are hyper aware of their vaginas and see them as the source of vulnerability, trauma and pain and as symbolic of their lack of power and control over their own bodies, lives and destinies.

[–]WildApples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That all makes a lot of sense. I get what you're saying. She did not mention any such trauma in her post, so I was operating on the assumption that she has not had such trauma.

[–]kwallio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean #2 and the fact that they didn't even mention menstruation makes me think its kind of fake. I've known people who have had to deal with all sorts of problems and couldn't find anyone to do a hysterectomy. I dunno how she is going to remove her just her vagina (unless she means her external anatomy and is just clueless).

[–]WildApples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God, I hope so. I never heard about the nullo thing until this thread, but making that post as a kind of fetish fantasy makes more sense than a doctor and parent being on board with removing a woman's vagina.

[–]linda_senora 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This person sounds younger than eighteen, but I guess living in NYC and having at least one woke parent has skewed her judgement.

She is unbearable and whether or not she comes to regret her decision, I hope she does not ruin her current/ future romantic partners.

[–]dreamgerms 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes, WE are the ones obsessed with genitals, and not the 18 year old who wants to surgically remove her entire healthy vagina. /s

I find this shit incredibly disturbing, and any doctor who is willing to perform this operation deserves to have their medical license revoked. The ignorance is astounding, too; your vagina isn’t just a hole to have sex with. These surgeries can be dangerous, and cause long term health complications. Not to mention the incredible risk involved with having an elective surgery in the first place! The fact that a teenager can go and have healthy organs removed from her body sounds like ENCOURAGING mental illness, not alleviating it! We don’t give liposuction to people with eating disorders, we don’t hand over razors to people who self-injure, we don’t allow euthanasia for suicidal people, etc. Why is this different? Why are we okay with, and celebrating, young, physically healthy people to permanently mutilate their bodies and damn them to a lifetime of medications and health problems?

[–]spinningIntelligence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is horrifying. If this person is real, I hope she gets through this unscathed. Are there any positive influences in her life?