People who aren't trans putting their pronouns on Twitter are super fucking weird

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I said what I said.

These people are pandering hard. You can instantly tell if they're one of the insane people based on whether they put pronouns in their bio.

It's like a warning "This person is insane." Biggest red flag ever.

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[–]Archie 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The whole concept of having your own pronouns is an internet insanity that should never have gotten any kind of mainstream attention.

Anyone who does it shows they seriously support trans ideology, and well I can't take seriously someone who says that women can have penises.

[–]assignedcopatbirth 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Almost everyone I know does this. For context there was a campaign a while back (probably entirely fabricated) stating that everyone should put pronouns in their bios because big bad bullies would find and single out trans twitter accounts using pronouns as a telltale sign. You'd think the logical conclusion would be for the trans users to remove pronouns from their bio to avoid harassment but oh god no, everyone has to bend over backwards for them to feel safe and comfy.

Twitter is a cesspool.

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Considering most trans people never shut up about being trans and/or can be clocked across a football field, that argument doesn’t make much sense to begin with.

[–]teacherterf 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would love to know what information they believe they are communicating about themselves. Not just "I support trans people" - you can communicate that more directly by putting "I support trans people" in your bio - but what it means to them to be she/hers or he/hims. I am of the apparently outdated and bigoted view that every single female person is a she/her and that every single male person is a he/him, and that those pronouns indicate nothing about a person's personality or interests or sense of self. But gender ideology says otherwise - according to gender ideology, it's something other than sex that makes a person a she/her or a he/him. What is that thing? When you tell me you're a she/her or a he/him, what information are you giving me other than "these are the words I want you to use to refer to me"?

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People who aren't trans putting their pronouns on Twitter are super fucking weird

Huh? Sounds like you are saying that it's perfectly reasonable for people who are trans - whatever the hell that is supposed to mean - to put "their" pronouns in their bios.

I don't get why people who pander to trans people and trans ideology without "identifying as" trans are supposedly "insane," but trans people themselves and the dodgy ideology behind their supposed transness are not.

IMHO, they're all crackers - mad as a box of frogs or bag of badgers.

[–]WildApples 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trans is almost besides the point now. People who are not dysphoric and who are not transitioning in any way are being encouraged to identify as non-binary and choose pronouns. That was what peaked me.

Sadly, this is not limited to social media anymore. I see it often professionally. Many lawyers and government workers in New York put their pronouns in the signatures of their work e-mails, and I have yet to see one do it who is trans. There is a big push to have "cis" people claim pronouns on the theory that it will make it normal for trans- and non-binary (whatever the hell that means) people to do it, which is stupid because if you choose pronouns that are clearly the opposite of your sex, you are going to stand out whether everyone is using pronouns or not. I fear a day will come soon where my bosses will direct me to include pronouns in my signature, at which point I would absolutely protest.

Gay rights groups get brought in to professional and government events to train employees on how to be sensitive to sexual minorities, which now apparently includes any hetero- person who identifies as such. These groups are lobbying hard to normalize pronoun usage. I've been to trainings where they told us the best practice is to affirmatively ask for pronouns whenever you meet someone.

I have also been in several in-person social interactions with "non-binary" individuals who do not want people to use the correct pronouns for them. I have been corrected when I used the sex-appropriate pronoun, and I am pretty sure if I would persist in using the sex-appropriate pronouns, I would be ostracized.

Beware! It is live, and it is spreading.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Out of curiosity, have you tried to avoid the pronouns by saying "this person" or "that person", or "the person" (you can interchange "person" with "client")? Their complaint is misgendering, but they never complained about actually avoiding using all pronouns at all costs so it seems like a great idea (and morons seem to take offence to being called "it" so we can't use that). It's easy to defend your action by saying that you're worried about using the wrong pronoun and that is why you won't use any pronouns at all to address them whatsoever and your decision to do so does not infringe on any of their rights, which is to be addressed by their pronoun. I plan to do the same thing but I haven't had the chance to test this idea yet.

[–]WildApples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have tried to stick to the person's name instead of using pronouns, but it is quite a tortured way to speak because you have to think so much about what you say before you say it. If I get too caught up in the flow of conversation, I will slip back into using pronouns.

I also think some overzealous TRAs will still find it offensive when they realize you are doing it to avoid using the person's selected pronouns.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm going to try to sticking to using the person's name, TRAs can try to have a field day with it, but I have several reasons, one being I just don't want to "misgender" them (can't claim I'm misgendering if I'm not) and I haven't seen anyone ever bar anyone from NOT using a single pronoun. I have to somehow adapt to the fucked up way the world is going to be because society has decided a bunch of pussy ass snowflakes have to be protected because all of their self-inflicted victimhood.

Edit: Correction

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen this myself when I started getting more active on Twitter and in my observation, it's usually done by people (usually women) in their late teens, early 20s. To me it just screams attention whoring.

[–]Rationalmind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. I take it as a red flag they are in a cult.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I began seeing free pronoun badges at my university and I have recieved an email from a staff member from the arts department, she has the pronouns right next to her name. This is in Australia goddamn it. I'm going to make it a point and always call whoever deludes themselves into thinking they're some other gender just by their name never their pronoun and if I don't know their name, I'm going to call them "this person". How to keep my job and how to not validate their delusion