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[–]MezozoicGay 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So TiM attacking TiM and it should be either both "woman attacking woman" or "transwoman attacking transwoman", and instead they are writting "woman attacking transwoman", I am surprised they not added "TERFs are real physical threat to poor transwomen".

[–]diapason 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sick of this warping of reality. And you're right, it's the clearest example I've ever seen of the bias between transwomen as perpetrators versus as victims, and they're feeding the public misleading information with how they've written this

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a clear-cut case illustrating that whenever a TIM commits a crime, he's always described as just a "woman." But when whenever a TIM is the victim of a crime, he's always described as a "transgender woman."

The media has done this with races for a while now, i.e. declining to name perps as Black.

That trend has meta-merged with this one, in which vague non-sequitur absurdities like "white supremacy" and "cissexism" are blamed for clear and obvious trends of black men killing TIMs (who half the time are by no means innocent themselves).

And then the anointed elitist morons ask in shock how "women" are now committing so many crimes, or why when csh bail laws are revoked, there are repeat offenses against the same victims?

[–]MarkTwainiac[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The media has done this with races for a while now, i.e. declining to name perps as Black.

Yes, I've noticed this in the reporting of recent incidents where Asian people in the US have reported being assaulted or harassed supposedly for being associated with "the Chinese virus." The press routinely highlights the race/ethnicity, national origin, current legal residence and immigration status of the victims in these cases. But it never mentions any of these details about the assailants if they are black. Coz that would go against the party line that says black people can't be racist, and would draw attention to the dirty little secret of profound anti-Asian animus amongst many American blacks. Also, coz by not mentioning the race of the assailants, the media seems to hope that the audience will assume they're white - which goes along with and furthers the popular narrative that only white people can be racist.

The same thing happened when Rick Moranis was assaulted in NYC a few months ago. All the media accounts said he was assaulted out of the blue by just "a man" when the security camera footage clearly showed an assailant who could be described in far greater detail - man, 30s, black skin, full head of black hair, medium build and height, wearing a dark pullover hoodie saying "I Heart NY" on the front, black pants, a backpack and a black lower-face mask covering his chin and mouth. Withholding identifying details in this case meant the press was acting directly against public safety, as it turned out this assault wasn't a one-off: the same man had a long rap sheet and had committed a string of unprovoked assaults on other people - including women - in the same neighborhood.

[–]emptiedriver 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ugh these language games are getting so confusing. Is it just that "another" that tells us they are both transgender or is there a place where it is stated more clearly? That seems like it could mean the person also committed a crime against a different victim

[–]MarkTwainiac[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good catch! And good point.

I originally interpreted the confusing reporting as meaning the defendants allegedly committed a series of crimes against the same TIM over a period of time, as part of an ongoing and lengthy extortion scheme "conducted as part of criminal street gang activity."

But reading it again, I think you might be right. The alleged crimes appear to have been against two different TIMs. There's a reference toward the end of the story of "victims."

Prosecutors named two new defendants, including a Castaic woman, Thursday in connection with an alleged attack on a transgender woman that took place in October 2019.

Margarita Valencia, aka “Inquieta” (which essentially means “restless” in Spanish), 23, of Castaic, stands accused of extorting another transgender woman between June and August, and the aforementioned attack in fall 2019, according to a statement from Ricardo Santiago, spokesman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office. She’s due back in court Dec. 15.

Valencia filed a not-guilty plea in court Thursday, according to Deputy District Attorney Richard Ceballos of the Hate Crimes Section, one of two prosecutors working on the case.

She faces a felony count of extortion in the second attack, as do two co-defendants: Javier Trimin-Rodriguez, aka “Golden,” 22, of Los Angeles; and Donoban Fonseca, 24.

Trimin-Rodriguez is accused of attempted murder and extortion, and additionally faces a hate crime allegation and allegations of using a knife as a deadly and dangerous weapon, as well as causing great bodily injury.

The defendants are accused of trying to force the victims to pay money in order to be at the park in both allegations, according to Ceballos. One such instance is believed to have led to a stabbing. The defendants also face the allegations that their alleged crimes were committed as part of criminal street gang activity.

The case is also being worked on by Deputy District Attorney Steven Mac of the Hardcore Gang Division, who was not immediately available for comment Thursday afternoon.

Fonseca, who’s accused on the same alleged stabbing as Trimin-Rodriguez, is being charged with 11 counts, which include attempted murder and attempting to dissuade a witness. He pleaded not guilty on Nov. 5 at his preliminary arraignment.

Valencia is being held in lieu of $135,000 bail.

The defendants face a possibility of life in prison if convicted of all charges.

It's very poor and unclear reporting that confusingly mixes us the details of different cases. When I first read it, I assumed that the street gang had arranged to have one TIM involved in extorting a separate TIM, probably providing the initial contact and pretending to make friends based on their mutual trans status. But I thing I was wrong. At any rate, the confusing story would have been much clearer if instead of saying the defendant

stands accused of extorting another transgender woman

it said "also stands accused of extorting a different transgender women in a separate case that prosecutors say was part of a larger, lengthy criminal enterprise conducted by the gang." Or something like that.

[–]our_team_is_winning 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wish the term could just be changed to male trans or male transgender. The person is male. On top of that he is trying to come across as the opposite sex. I guess male transsexual makes more sense than gender. By putting any adjective in front of the word woman, it is deliberately misleading. Trans woman is not a type of woman. Stop messing with the language, please.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why I originally found and stuck with this sub on Reddit, because its the only one that uses terms like TIM that are unambiguous.