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[–]MadLass 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Fucking Y-I-K-E-S. Btw just noticed a ton of articles posted in the last few weeks about how the rate of murder for trans women is up from last year. Its 32 for this year btw I think last year was 28. Murder is always terrible and awful but how many women are killed in a year due to domestic violence alone? Its difficult for me to even find a number let alone countless articles crying for justice. What is an epidemic is is the amount of young women looking to transition with their peers. Biden will just parrot what the party tells him so I shouldn't be so disgusted but I just am.

[–]MarkTwainiac 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In recent years, an average 8-9 female people are killed by homicide every day in the US. Annual total in recent years has hovered around 3,200.

In 2016, the number of female homicide victims was 3,208.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

In 2017, the number was 3,222.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

In 2018, the number was 3,180.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

In 2019, the number was 2,991. (However, this is a preliminary number; the FBI's final reports on 2019 stats are not out yet.)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

[–]Eurowoman24 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

wow that's crazy!

[–]YourSister 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for this compilation. It is difficult to find these stats anywhere else.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

FBI puts out the stats every year in charts that are easy to read and easy to find. There are 30 years worth of homicide data online, going back to 1980.

The Justice Dept also has tools that make it super easy to search through the homicide data going back to 1980 called "Easy Access to the FBI's Supplementary Homicide Reports: 1980-2018"

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezashr/

And to search domestic violence data through 2016. The stats in this one needs updating, but the options for searching are terrific.

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezanibrsdv/asp/selection.asp

[–]MarkTwainiac 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Btw just noticed a ton of articles posted in the last few weeks about how the rate of murder for trans women is up from last year.

The articles you're citing use the lingo of the trans lobby groups, and take what they say as the gospel truth.

Whenever a the body of a TIM is discovered and it looks like he died due to violence, the trans lobby immediately say he has been murdered. And that's how it gets reported in the press.

But many of these men will turn out not to be murder victims who were intentionally killed. Many will turn out to be victims of manslaughter, some of it accidental. Some will have died whilst in a physical altercation with another man; and some of the TIMs who die in such altercations will be the ones to have started the fight.

After being challenged on their misleading language and portrayal, some trans campaign organizations such as the USA's Human - oops, I mean the Scrotum Rights Campaign, have changed their phrasing slightly. Now instead of saying there's a "epidemic of transgender murders" they are saying there's an "epidemic of fatal violence against transgender" people in the US.

Trans lobby groups portray every trans person to die a violent death as an innocent victim attacked and killed merely for being trans. For example, HRC list of transgender people murdered in 2020 includes a presumably innocent victim named Jayne Thompson. The HRC's entry on Thompson is as follows in its entirety:

Jayne Thompson, a 33-year old white transgender woman, was killed in Mesa County, Colorado, on May 9. She was killed by a Colorado State Patrol trooper and misgendered in initial news reports.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-trans-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2020

What the HRC leaves out is that according to the police account, Thompson, whose legal name was Jayson, was aggressively approaching and brandishing a 10-inch knife at the police officer who shot him.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/11/man-shot-state-trooper-mesa-county-identified/

Of course, what the police say in officer-involved shootings and killings needs always to be taken with a grain of salt. However, based on video, audio and witness accounts, the DA said the officer was acting in self-defense, and that had Thompson lived he would have been indicted on several serious charges:

District Attorney Dan Rubinstein announced Wednesday that Trooper Jason Wade will not face charges for killing 33-year-old Jayson Thompson, The Daily Sentinel reports.

Thompson ran toward Wade with a knife on a roadside near Grand Junction May 9, authorities said.

Rubinstein determined Wade acted in self-defense based on video and audio evidence and witness interviews.

Felony assault, attempted assault and menacing charges would have been filed against Thompson if he survived the shooting, Rubinstein said.

An investigation found Wade responded to a report of a person standing near Highway 50 for two hours.

Thompson pulled a knife from his waistband and ignored Wade’s orders to drop the weapon. Wade shot him when Thompson lunged at the trooper, a report said.

A jury would likely conclude there was a reasonable belief of imminent danger if a person ran at someone with a knife, Rubinstein said.

Rubinstein’s office, the Colorado Bureau of Investigations and three police and sheriff’s departments took part in the investigation.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/21/no-charges-mesa-county-trooper-shooting/

Similarly, the HRC says this of another of its presumed murder victims:

Aja Raquell Rhone-Spears, who sometimes used the name Rocky Rhone, a Black transgender woman, was killed in Portland, Oregon, on July 28. According to Facebook, she studied at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and was the owner and founder of International Barbie, a Portland-based clothing brand.

What the HRC leaves out is that Spears was one of 15 people to be killed in Portland in July in a spate of violence that made it the city's single most deadly month in 30 years. The HRC also leaves out that Spears died whilst attending a small memorial service in a private home where "a fight broke out" and two people ended up being stabbed:

Portland police say the stabbing happened at a vigil for Tyrell Penney, who was killed in a recent shooting. Police say about 20 or 30 people were at the vigil, when a fight broke out among several people that led to the stabbings.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/police-identify-victim-killed-in-tuesday-stabbing-in-ne-portland.html

I've been to many dozens of funerals, memorial services and vigils. At none did anyone break out in fisticuffs, and at none did anyone end up getting stabbed or killed by other means.

The HRC further leaves out that the other persons who attended the vigil with Spears, some of whom were presumably acquaintances or even friends of Spears, is bothering to help find out exactly who killed Spears:

Portland police have said little about Rhone-Spears’ death, other than the stabbing occurred at a vigil for Tyrell Penney, a 27-year-old who had been shot and killed a few days prior. Police said several people were at the scene and may have witnessed the stabbing, but most have refused to talk to police.

“No one is standing up for Aja,” said Tina Pillias, a close friend of Rhone-Spears. “No one is speaking out that was there and knows exactly what happened.”

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/family-of-aja-rhone-spears-still-in-limbo-after-her-july-homicide.html

Yet this hasn't stopped trans advocates, Spears' family and the mainstream media from claiming that Spears was "murdered for being transgender."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/murdered-for-being-transgender-witnesses-saw-her-stabbed-at-vigil-but-no-one-has-been-arrested/ar-BB18jpqw

And the fact that Spears was killed attending a vigil in a private residence did not stop the HRC from claiming that Spears' death is more proof that “Black transgender women are being violently killed in our streets. ”

https://www.hrc.org/news/hrc-mourns-aja-raquell-rhone-spears-black-trans-woman-killed-in-oregon

On its website, the HRC also says this of everyone who has died in the spate of "fatal violence against transgender" people:

These victims, like all of us, are loving partners, parents, family members, friends and community members. They worked, went to school and attended houses of worship.

That's a statement that's patently not true of each and every one of these so-called victims. Nor is it true of the "all of us" who the HRC presume to speaking of us. Whilst the majority of TIMs who come out in mid and later life are indeed fathers, plenty of trans people - like the rest of the population - are not parents, and this seems to hold true for those who this year have had the misfortune to die of violence.

Similarly, whilst perhaps at one time most of these people worked, went to school and attended houses of worship, it seems a bit of a stretch to portray them all as loving, devoted family types and upstanding community members who spent their lives holding down steady jobs, going to school and regularly attending church/mosque/synagogue.

[–]diapason 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

(A little off topic but…)

I've been to many dozens of funerals, memorial services and vigils. At none did anyone break out in fisticuffs, and at none did anyone end up getting stabbed or killed by other means.

Let's just say there's a reason I don't have contact with a lot of relatives on one side of the family… 😶