Are women more or less likely than to be TRAs than men?

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[–]chrysthefeminist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

They know exactly what men demand of them. Men demand that women fight men's battles for them while they (the men) just sit on their narrow asses and let the women do it for them.

This demand of men that women fight their battles is communicated in many ways, overt and subliminal, from the very earliest days of a girl child's "upbringing" (a more appropriate word would be "procuring.")

[–]BEB 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

The younger trans maidens I can kind of understand as they've been Queer Theory indoctrinated for the last many years now.

It's the older women who are trans maidens I don't get, especially women in the 55-80 age bracket.

There is a man whom I respect a lot, brilliant, incredibly brave, and an iconoclast, with whom I had the opportunity to work briefly. I assumed his wife, who's a big deal in her field, would be like him, but then I saw her Twitter and she, a woman in her mid-60s, had a whole bunch of TWAW stuff, including TWAW, and I just thought to myself - seriously? You know how hard it was for women to get basic rights and you're spouting this nonsense? I will never get the chance to ask her myself, but if her husband supports her ideas, my respect for both of them is gone.

Same with all the female politicians, especially the lesbians like US Senator Tammy Baldwin, who is pushing the women-hating Equality Act hard, and that other piece of shit, US Congresswoman, Pramila Jayapal - I want to ask them, why do you pretend to be for women's rights when in fact you're advocating legislation that will destroy them?

How can you, older, supposedly intelligent women, who know full well that allowing men into women's spaces will result in a huge increase in sexual assault, still enthusiastically support the Equality Act?

I fucking hate them. Stabbing women in the back for political brownie points while calling themselves feminists.

[–]buttbuttinator 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's the older women who are trans maidens I don't get, especially women in the 55-80 age bracket.

I think there's also a fair bit of ignorance there. My grandmother isn't super progressive, but she was very offended when I said that it doesn't make sense for someone to have a "female" brain inside of a male body because mind-body dualism is a pseudoscientific idea fundamentally based on the premise of a soul.

Then she seemed genuinely shocked when I told her that SRS doesn't actually create a functioning vagina. Apparently she'd believed for decades that somehow surgeons can build the complex structures of the vagina and its related structures and functions (not even counting the organs for reproduction) from scratch when hand transplants are basically at the edge of surgical technology.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There is a great deal of ignorance around this, encouraged by the gender lobby because their whole stance is illogical and would not bear scrutiny.

So I don't blame your grandmother or think less of her for not being up to speed; it's women like Liz Warren, who should be up to speed, and who blather TWAW far and wide, who are the ones who piss me off.

[–]chrysthefeminist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's the older women I don't get, especially women in the 55-80 who are trans maidens.

Women, including older women (that would be my age group; I'm 67), have also been groomed via "upbringing" from their earliest days to fight men's battles for them for as long as I can remember, maybe more. One would hope that they would finally be able to think their way out of that bag and become wiser, more mature and good women, but apparently not all women can, will (or even want to?) do so. This means that the nurturing, mentoring and upbringing of girls from our earliest years is really important.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree about nurturing and mentoring.

I'm not blaming all older women at all - women are to this day expected to fight for men - just the ones who should know better and the ones in the public eye, especially female politicians spouting TWAW while enacting laws that will destroy women's rights and safety.

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

With very few politicians, most of them are in the profession for their own enrichment, and they parrot whatever gains them donations and votes, this brings to mind the "public and private" policy positions of certain prominent politicians whom were leaked.

Private speeches to investment banks, whilst keeping the public image of concern for the people, infiltrating and destroying all the progressive movements, to assure that big money continues its strangle on our politics.

Our politics might slowly be becoming unfixably corrupt.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Definitely.

I woke up in the middle of the night as it hit me that this is also about the commodification of women's bodies. They want our vaginas to sell for sex, they want our wombs to sell for gay men and other rich people's babies. We are nothing to politicians except our bodies, which they hope to use for their own ends until the rich are uploaded (trans-humanism) and the rest of us left to die.

[–]our_team_is_winning 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Among female family and friends close to your age, do you find a lot of TWAW nonsense?

[–]chrysthefeminist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. Most female friends and family my age are barely, if at all, aware that transgenderism as an issue even exists. Things I post about it on facebook are totally ignored. They get no response, neither any likes nor any counter arguments, no reporting to facebook.

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe you could use a more relevant argument, like "Trans Men are NOT matlock!!!!" That may increase the engagement on your end ;).

[–]MonstrousRegiment 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, the women my own age who believe in this stuff sadden me. Their political analysis seems to be confined to "be nice".

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think also some older women are so out of touch with what's happening now, like young lesbians being coerced to sleep with TiMs, etc., that many assume that TiMs are the harmless gay cross-dressers of old.

These older women have no idea that the drivers of the Trans Train are heterosexual men with intact genitalia and a bunch of creepy fetishes who hate women.

[–]our_team_is_winning 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

a woman in her mid-60s, had a whole bunch of TWAW stuff

Is this an attempt at "I'm down with the young people"??? I'm at the older end of Gen X, and I can't relate to Generation Billie Eilish at all. Not at all. We both spend too much time online. That is ALL we share. But maybe some older people want to be Gen Z allies?

As for those politicians, my guess is whoever is bribing them, that's whose garbage they spout.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, in the US Big Pharma is the lobby that spends the most lobbying dollars on politicians, but still... For women my age, life was hard, for women Liz Warren's age it was a nonstop battle, so for her and others her age +, like Dianne Feinstein, to throw away what they and other women fought so hard for, just makes me livid.

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

for women Liz Warren's age it was a nonstop battle, so for her and others her age +, like Dianne Feinstein, to throw away what they and other women fought so hard for, just makes me livid.

Lizzy Warren got a prestigious job for lying about her race... Her college even wrote about how she was 'the first faculty member of color', she was said to be a raging republican as well, at the time.

Once knowing that- her backwards views, and attempts to destroy sanders become very clear.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My point is that every woman Liz Warren's age faced a mountain of legal sexism and a society that treated women as stupid, incompetent, vain, trivial and there for decoration, to cook, clean, fuck and birth babies.

So, Liz Warren's personal history aside, for women Liz Warren's age to turn around and destroy all the rights her generation and the ones before and after fought so hard for, is beyond reprehensible.

[–]missdaisycan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

a woman in her mid-60s, had a whole bunch of TWAW stuff

Is this an attempt at "I'm down with the young people"??? I'm at the older end of Gen X, and I can't relate to Generation Billie Eilish at all. Not at all. We both spend too much time online. That is ALL we share. But maybe some older people want to be Gen Z allies?

There are ninnies in every generation.

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Allish is the attempt to influence thought-noughters. A musician with no talent, no music, telling people to vote for a candidate, without knowing what that politician stands for.

Where was she when the candidate who actually fought for us all was running? Capital F U C K every 'hip' millionaire whos trying to tell US who we should vote for. And Fuck the Rock, too. I dont think his family is struggling to pay the rent during this outbreak.