Sure Cliff. I can barely restrain myself.

buttbuttinator · 2020-11-19T15:44:30+00:00

Oh my god, just the way that that "pregnancy" pic is written makes him sound like a serial killer.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-31T14:15:05+00:00

Every single time I learn something about Glenn Greenwald it makes me hate him more. What a loathsome creature he is.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-27T02:46:10+00:00

Transmaxxers are especially deranged. I'm sure we're all aware of the intel to trans pipeline, but most people who take that path at least have the sense to deny it. They may occasionally let it slip, but they never come right out and say it. Transmaxxers are outright incels who envied their hated "Stacies" so much that the decided to become one.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-24T03:54:18+00:00

The concept of privilege and intersectionality is theoretically a useful concept. The problem is that the people who use the concept the most don't seem to have any interest in actually using them in a sensible, constructive way. They just keep on stacking intersectional identities like that somehow gets to the heart of the issue.

That's how someone can start the day as a straight white male (the most evil identity according to the intersectionalists) and go to bed as a trans lesbian (race tends to fall to the wayside for white trans activists). Nothing about them actually changed, but by saying, "I identify as a lesbian" they suddenly gained two intersectional identities. This entire concept is obviously ridiculous, but we've actually seen this in action with plenty of male feminists who have escaped the consequences of their predatory behavior (eg Charlesotte Clymer).

Another example is my sister acting like she'll be targeted by the cops for being a "fat, queer woman of color". Systemic racism is a problem that really becomes dangerous when it manifests in law enforcement, I'm not denying that. But I don't think that Asian women who exclusively date men are being victimized by police no matter how many intersectional identities they claim.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-22T01:49:40+00:00

Remember when people were actually arguing that refusing to say that "2 + 2 = 5 is sometimes true" was labelled transphobic?

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-21T23:36:10+00:00

Want to know a cool fact about leuprolide (AKA Lupron)?

This medicine can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately from other laundry.

You are unlikely to spread the three body fluids they list (hopefully), but I didn't see anything about saliva or sweat (increased sweating is a side effect of Lupron) so who knows, that Lupron shot might be turning your teenager into a biohazard. These are dangerous, dangerous drugs.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-17T00:26:24+00:00

Don't forget that when JK Rowling responded to a child's drawing with praise he jumped into the conversation to call her a "moron" and then told us how much he enjoyed breaking women's skulls. He's a real charmer.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-16T01:09:58+00:00

“Executions perpetuate violence, they don’t prevent it.”

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty in general, but a lot of the language that anti-death-penalty people use is so disingenuous and vapid. How is executing rapists going to "perpetuate violence"?

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-15T16:38:11+00:00

You see pepperspraying not just your own face but then also your genitals is something the Jackass crew, or even the Dirty Sanchez boys, would probably take a rain check on

Are you kidding me, have you even watched those shows? Or maybe you've never been exposed to pepper spray. I've only seen one Jackass movie but the very first thing they did (getting a snake to bit the guys penis) was way worse, (possibly less painful, obviously I've never been bitten by a snake down there, but with a whole lot more potential for permanent damage).

And if I'd had any idea how bad the pain would be I would never have used it on my dick. Putting it on my eyes really wasn't much worse than getting grit in my eyes in terms of pain, possibly lower (on the other hand, grit doesn't cause my eyes to swell shut). It stung for about 15 seconds and then the pain passed, I figured it would be even less painful down there because of the lack of mucous membranes but it ended up being a whole different level and it didn't stop for a long time. It wasn't anything sexual, it was just some normal experimentation from a 21-year-old. A quick google check shows that I'm not the only person to do this and that even some women do it (I'd imagine it's even more painful for them, but I've had one pepperspray/genital surprise in my life so I'm prepared for another).

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-15T07:26:45+00:00

Race is a genuinely tricky thing that is defined very differently in different places. In California I'm mixed. In Asia I'm white. In the midwest I'm Asian. And it changed over the course of my life too, because as a baby I looked very Asian. When I was about 8 I looked pretty white, maybe Latino. Now I'm pretty clearly mixed. But even when I looked white there are plenty of places where I would be too obviously Jewish to be accepted as white. Race is such a genuinely fluid social construct and we will never have a consistent, scientific way to define it.

Meanwhile you can unambiguously figure out someone's sex (and gender is used as a synonym for sex 99% of the time and used to describe a sex-based class the other 1% of the time) by looking at their genitals the vast, vast majority of the time. If you want something even more reliable then you can look at their chromosomes. The presence of a Y chromosome means male (even if they are XXY or XXXY) and the lack of a Y chromosome means that they are female (even if they are X or XXX). This fails less than one percent of one percent of the time, and even in those rare mutations a more careful look at the chromosomes will succeed 100% of the time. Frankly, even when they try to hide it you can figure out someone's sex by looking at them about as reliably as their race.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-15T07:02:19+00:00

I mean, I don't want to use a feminist forum to talk about our dicks, but if you really don't believe me feel free to try it yourself (seriously though, DO NOT DO IT).

I will say that it might partly be psychological because the penis physically, visibly reacts to the spray and it's genuinely horrifying.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-14T19:06:31+00:00

Pure curiosity. I had a can of pepper spray that was reaching its expiration date and I decided to test it out (I rubbed it in my eyes). It was definitely unpleasant, but other than my eyes swelling shut I felt like it didn't really hinder my ability to do things even though my eyes are generally pretty sensitive.

So I wondered whether the pepper spray was defective or maybe being close to the expiration date made it lose effectiveness. So a few months later I decided to test my new pepper spray with similar results. And then, like many men, my thoughts went to my penis and I sprayed it there.

BIG MISTAKE. I deliberately avoided my mucous membranes but that did not matter, it was definitely top 3 most painful experiences of my life. Very possibly #1. For about an hour I was writhing in agony.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-14T17:05:55+00:00

I've peppersprayed myself in the face, and in the crotch. Getting it in my eyes was certainly unpleasant, but getting it on my crotch hurt so much that I considered the hospital. It's horrible. So I second this idea, with one clarification.

Use pepper spray gel. Not only is it a lot easier to get on the pad without getting it on yourself, it is probably especially visually appealing to period fetishists and it won't evaporate off the pad as much.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-14T16:59:22+00:00

Fruit and vegetable aren't contradicting terms and while "fruit" has a clear scientific definition a "vegetable" is basically just any plant (or plant part) that people eat and is mostly only used to describe vegetables that don't fit into more specific categories like "herbs" or "fruits".

Unlike men in dresses claiming to be women, tomatoes can claim to be fruits because they fit the scientific definition in every way. They can also claim to be vegetables because fruit are a type of vegetables.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-14T00:53:42+00:00

It's the older women who are trans maidens I don't get, especially women in the 55-80 age bracket.

I think there's also a fair bit of ignorance there. My grandmother isn't super progressive, but she was very offended when I said that it doesn't make sense for someone to have a "female" brain inside of a male body because mind-body dualism is a pseudoscientific idea fundamentally based on the premise of a soul.

Then she seemed genuinely shocked when I told her that SRS doesn't actually create a functioning vagina. Apparently she'd believed for decades that somehow surgeons can build the complex structures of the vagina and its related structures and functions (not even counting the organs for reproduction) from scratch when hand transplants are basically at the edge of surgical technology.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-09T22:10:07+00:00

I guess if TERF means anyone who criticizes aspects of trans activism

Not quite. I'm a gender critical male so I don't get called a TERF. They have a different set of insults for men who criticize transactivists, and curiously they rarely if ever use the same sort of violent language towards us. It's quite peculiar.

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-07T16:23:12+00:00

Get on my level, bro. http://www.mogaipedia.org/wiki:mogai

buttbuttinator · 2020-10-05T08:43:37+00:00

Any more so than straight porn?

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-30T16:10:09+00:00

I know that British TRAs are doing this (thanks to the UK government officially repudiating the "born in the wrong body" line), but has it spread to the US yet? While their DARVO bullshit pisses me off, I can't help but feel like it spells the end for them when they are forced to claim that they actually don't believe their core tenet and actually that's what their enemies believe.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-29T04:24:55+00:00

Really, you're here? Don't even trans groups hate you for your abusive and manipulative behavior?

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-28T18:45:58+00:00

They also claim they started Stonewall. I'm sure they also claim credit for other important moments in gay rights. Would no longer be surprised if they start claiming that the suffragettes were all trans men who were actually fighting for their right to be men.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-28T18:32:45+00:00

Ever notice how their pronouns are always third person? They never change the pronouns that they actually use, it's only the pronouns that you have to use to talk about them to someone else.

Like, there's no inherent reason that third person pronouns are gendered but second and first person pronouns aren't, so how come none of these MOGAI pronouns are ever first or second person? The idea of neopronouns being a right is so completely absurd. Language is, by definition, a social construct. There's no way that you actually need specific pronouns because of who you are and not the society you exist in is nonsense, there are hundreds of languages out there that your neopronouns don't exist in, are you going to get mad when a Spanish speaker "mistreats" you by using la instead of bun? How long until they start complaining about conjugations?

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-28T07:54:47+00:00

I must admit that for most of my life I disliked feminists in part because I thought it was all libfems and their inane tendency to call everything that they enjoy "feminist". That brand of "yass queen" feminism was so clearly either a) a marketing ploy to get women to buy products b) a shallow attempt to justify guilt-free participation in patriarchal industries and institutions. I'm not saying that you have to be 100% dedicated to the cause, but don't fucking lie. Sometimes I eat meat, that's not an environmentalist act no matter how much I'd like it to be so.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-24T23:05:23+00:00

Yeah, it always bewilders me when a smoker will insist that it’s a harmless habit that shouldn’t be interfered with and then, in the same breath, reacting with murderous rage at the mere idea that someone might try to prevent them from having their smokes wherever they want.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-24T09:29:21+00:00

There are some smokers who do think that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere and everywhere including hospitals and playgrounds. There are some DnD 5e players who think that no one should play any other RPGs because it dilutes the market share.

And there are some trans people who think that they should be allowed to force people to believe that they have magical gendered souls that were put in the wrong body and that they can fix it with surgery.

But there are also some smokers who understand that its a filthy habit that they should hide. There are some 5e players who understand that other systems offer valuable experiences. There are some trans people who understand that gender identity is nothing more than a fantasy and that validating the fantasy is not more important than people's rights.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-24T03:03:08+00:00

I'm able to balance being atheist and not becoming outright hateful of Christians (or any religion).

I'm able to balance thinking that cigarettes are hard drugs that have inexplicably stayed socially acceptable and not becoming hateful of smokers.

I'm able to balance thinking that DnD 5e is an unsatisfying compromise between narrative and gamist systems and not becoming hateful of 5e players.

In all other fields I'm capable of thinking that other people are delusional and still respecting them as people and friends. Even when some people use similar delusional beliefs to make the world a worse place I don't hold everyone with similar kinds of beliefs responsible for it.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-21T20:52:21+00:00

Ah, too bad. As WrongToy mentioned that's South San Francisco which is a different (but adjacent) city altogether. I won't be passing that way, but hopefully that means it'll stand for longer and more international travelers will see it on their way from the airport. My mom will be going by there later this week too, so now I'm a little worried that she'll be the one who reports it. Maybe I should make sure that she hears the non TRA side before she sees the billboard.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-21T19:58:03+00:00

Going to SF this week. What's the location?

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-21T07:36:56+00:00

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4940404/ (8 point IQ difference)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5253377/ (commentary on the above study)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333793/ (study on sheep)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11683207/ this one doesn't have as many details available to the general public, but it does mention that "Intelligence quotient levels decreased significantly during treatment." and is mentioned in the commentary posted above)

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-21T01:48:29+00:00

I don't think they are into anime so much as they are into something called "Hentai" which has a lot of sexual fetishes derived from Japanese folklore, like "futanari", creatures with a female appearance and male sex organs.

I think that anime is kind of unique among children's-media in how engrained the sexualization is; the difference between hentai and anime is far less clear than you'd hope. There have been rumors about some Nickelodeon shows being influenced by Schneider's foot fetish and there have been other theories about "Totally Spies" having a writer with an inflation fetish, but even these things are incredibly tame and nonsexual compared to the basic premise of "Hip Whip Girl" ("The series centers around the fictional women-only sport of keijo, where players stand on floating platforms and aim to incapacitate or push opponents into the water, using only breasts and buttocks") or "Prison School" ("Kiyoshi Fujino is one of these new boys, but he discovers to his shock that he and his four friends—Takehito "Gakuto" Morokuzu, Shingo Wakamoto, Jouji "Joe" Nezu, and Reiji "Andre" Andou—are the only male students among 1,000 girls..... The boys are incarcerated in the Prison Block together and Kiyoshi is overwhelmed by the discovery that all the other boys are masochists that revel in the punishments handed to them by their attractive but vicious supervisors.").

I think that part of this is that anime seems to have absolutely no artistic integrity. I'm sure that there are anime creators out there who genuinely care about the craft (I love Studio Ghibli), but most of them are A-OK with degrading the "art form" to its most pandering and underdeveloped in the name of developing a fanbase and so making it barely non-pornographic is an easy way to do that.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-19T03:10:37+00:00

That man is pure fucking evil. I can only hope that the Republicans who are likely to be voted out (Martha McSally R-AZ, Susan Collins R-ME, Cory Gardner R-CO...) will not vote for any of Trump's loons right before the election. Three Republican senators have already pledged that they wouldn't (Murkowski, Grassley, and Collins) vote for a new justice until the inauguration, but Collins have proven over and over agains that she cannot be trusted.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-19T03:03:02+00:00

It is genuinely a bit terrifying how the effects of GnRH agonists on teenage brains is just completely ignored. When I was doing my research I found a study that found a 8 point IQ drop compared to the control. Now granted, it was a small group and the p-score was 9% when 5% is the standard, but they said that anything less than a standard deviation of IQ drop wasn't concerning (they did not say that it was statistically insignificant, they said 8 IQ points was insignificant). 5 μg/dL of lead in your child's blood stream is tied to about 1.5 points of IQ drop and we (understandably) freaked out about that despite it being 1/10th of a standard deviation. This study found that puberty blockers had a similar impact as injecting 1000 μg of lead directly into your child's bloodstream and this study was trying to say that it was no biggie because it was less of an effect than 2000 μg of lead.

And if a result that size gives you a confidence interval of less than 95% then what's the point of such a small sample size? Other studies with larger sample sizes did confirm the results BTW with much better than 95% confidence interval. Pretty much any study on GnRH agonists and IQ links them with a massive lowering of IQ and (in animal tests) cognitive functions. The fact that they are doing this to children is genuinely horrifying, at least when they originally started prescribing it for precocious puberty they didn't realize how damaging it was, but at this point there's absolutely no excuse.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-19T02:43:21+00:00

I'm not even a Joe Rogan fan and I probably would have gone the rest of my life without ever watching an episode of his show if it hadn't been for the fucking slander he was getting.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-18T09:17:45+00:00

Woke media is seriously so dumb because they don't seem to realize that all this type of controversy does is publicize Shrier (and Rowling) work to those who wouldn't have been interested otherwise.

I'd never really had to think about the transing of kids until Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders and I kept on hearing the woke brigade calling for Sanders to denounce him because he was against puberty blockers for kids. That forced me to actually research puberty blockers (a better name would probably be brain destroyers) and then (instead of just thinking that trans people suffered from an illness but other than bathrooms and lockers and stuff that it was harmless to go along with their beliefs) I suddenly believed that trans ideology was a threat in and of itself.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-17T13:45:51+00:00

TRA forums do their absolute best to keep you away from gender critical stuff, occasionally providing an out-of-context screenshot of a GC tweet or something, but rarely even providing that much.

Gender critical forums are absolutely full of links to and discussions of TRA stuff.

Makes you think...

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-17T13:42:33+00:00

I remember seeing this tweet years ago (before being peaked) and assuming it was a joke. That's like half of how TRAs avoid peaktransing everyone, most reasonable people assume that this shit isn't real even without TRAs having to tell them to ignore it.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-17T13:35:04+00:00

Another campaigner, Mathieu Stoclet, pointed out the "incoherence" of the woman being recognised as female by the French system, but at the same time as the child's father.

Hmmm, you're right. Maybe they shouldn't recognize them as being female? That would solve the entire issue.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-15T19:29:19+00:00

Because half of the TRA's handbook is to use marginalized groups as a shield. That's why they love claiming intersex terms like AFAB and AMAB, that's why they tried to make BLM into Black Trans Lives Matter, that's why they have turned liberal feminism into even more of a joke.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-15T19:23:46+00:00

They didn't even bother denying that it happened, they just said that the other person hadn't provided context and when asked for context called it "bad faith argumentation".

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-14T22:17:52+00:00

Just going to post a comment thread that I thought was pretty funny

Major difference is gay people weren't vandalizing and nailing dead rats to rape crisis shelters in protest. These people have lost their minds and even progressives are sick of it.

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You too can make anything sound absurd if you leave out literally all context! Find out how today with these instructional videos! Only $19.99 plus shipping and handling!

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I don't need to make anything sound absurd, those are just the facts. What context is needed to justify doing that to a rape crisis shelter?

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Nah, I've had enough of bad faith argumentation from TERFs in this thread. You know how Google works if you're actually asking that in sincerity - but I know you're not.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-10T03:11:48+00:00

I've been a trans ally from the beginning. Even as a preteen back in the early part of the millennium I held the (at the time) uncommon belief that TWAW (though that mantra had not been popularized at the time). I was outraged at the occasional story of an elementary teacher being fired for transitioning. I saw "transphobia" as a simple extension of sexist gender roles.

But, frankly, I never really thought too deeply on it and so I believed it but wasn't ideological about it. I viewed trans rights as a logical extension of the fight against sexism and homophobia and figured that the best way to protect trans people was to protect the rights of everyone, so as long as I was never put in a position where I really had to defend trans rights beyond "men should be allowed to wear dresses" and "adults can do to their bodies whatever they please" I never really had any reason to consider myself as anything other than a trans ally.

My peaking was kind of a gradual thing, it kind of came to a head with the Stonewall movie where the TRAs managed to successfully control the narrative to the point that suddenly everyone was claiming that Stonewall was mostly black transwomen, but I was uneasy about the trans bathroom stuff. It was like non-black people and saying the n-word, even if I think that words shouldn't be restricted by race, I also think that non-black people fighting for the right to say the n-word is creepy as fuck and as a non-black person I'm not going to tell black people that they should be cool with me saying it as long as I do so in a friendly way, especially since (as Chris Rock can attest) there are plenty of people who will latch onto any way they can get away with saying it.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-10T02:40:46+00:00

God, the comments on that Stranger article are just... something else. Holy shit. I don't think that anyone is claiming that gay men can't be and have never been murdered for being gay, but there's good reasons to question whether Matthew Shepard was one of them. Regardless of why he was murdered, his death still catalyzed a much-needed reaction against homophobia and Jimenez, as a gay man, probably is glad that we've seen this shift. But the facts are that McKinney was friendly with Matthew Shepard and was (if not actually gay himself) comfortable with gay men; it's not hateful to point that out.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-08T12:35:37+00:00

When I taught at a charter school there was one single-person staff bathroom for the entire school. Even at the large public schools there will be entire wings of the school that only have a single staff bathroom, for instance the math wing only had a woman's room and the foreign language wing only had a men's room. You'd have to spend your entire passing period getting to and from the bathroom, never mind actually using it.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-08T10:36:50+00:00

I'm particularly upset with her for bringing up autism in that letter she wrote. Making a connection between trans and autism was really foul. Because again, they're two groups of people who can speak for themselves, and she's not allowing them to.

JK Rowling didn't make the connection, every single study on the subject made the connection.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-06T10:13:46+00:00

Obviously this isn't what they meant by that, but this kind of illustrates one of the reasons I hate the terms "trans woman" and "trans man" with the space. If "trans woman" means a non-female who identifies as a woman and "trans man" means a non-male who identifies as a man then logically "trans person" would mean a non-human who identifies as a person or something like that and instead of calling it "transhumanism" we would call it "trans humanism". Putting that space there doesn't even really make grammatical sense and I swear that 5 years ago it was almost always "transman" or "transwoman" instead and it seems to me that they just added the space so they could exercise more power over the dialogue.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-04T14:39:46+00:00

Maybe a mod can clear this up for me, but I saw someone say that "TiM" and "TiF" are banned language on this sub, but I don't see why. "Tranny" is demeaning, I won't argue with that. "Troon" is demeaning too, though I think it was originally something that the SA trans community coined for themselves as a portmanteau of "trans" and "goon". But "TiF" and "TiM" are simply accurate terms that don't require you to engage in the fictions that a female can be a man or a male can be a woman like "trans man" or "trans woman" do while "trans female" and "trans male" can be ambiguous. "TiM" and "TiF" just seem like a fair compromise there.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-04T14:04:53+00:00

In a few decades I like to think that we'll look back at this fact as an interesting footnote, but that there will have been no long-term impact from it. Sort of like how the Skoptsy cult in the Russian Empire persisted for over a century and became shockingly influential in the early 20th century but today most people don't even know about them.

I hope that we'll look back on this as that time that fetishists inexplicably managed to accrue a shocking amount of power before, almost overnight, people started pushing back. It happens sometimes, in the 80s the Green Parties had a pro-pedophilia contingent. In San Francisco the nudists managed until very recently to successfully fight off even the most tepid of restrictions.

The latter example really showed the MO of these types of organizations, I don't think that anyone really thought it was an unreasonable law. I'm 100% in favor of nudity being legalized and view the nudists as a San Francisco institution, but requiring them to carry a towel so they don't put their bare assholes on chairs is fair. In fact, even the nudists themselves weren't arguing that it was actually OK for nudists to put their bare anuses on benches, but they said that legislating it was unnecessary because no nudist would be inconsiderate enough to do that and they carry towels anyway. And most normal people just didn't care enough to get involved because, well, arguing about what naked old gay men (because they do all seem to be old men in the Castro) do seems a little silly and even oppressive. And while we may support this regulation it will open the door to future regulation that we won't agree with (as we saw when our beloved Scott Weiner effectively banned the nudists a year later).

The same thing seems to be going on with the trans debate, most people think that TRAs are nutty, but most people also just think of them as harmless nuts and while we don't like them entering women's spaces, we also worry that the allies against trans insanity today will be adversaries on actual trans rights tomorrow.

buttbuttinator · 2020-09-03T19:51:17+00:00

trans girls breeding eager cis girls

Where was it indicated that the women were eager?

we hive five each other while spitroasting cis women. we call it the gender crit wet pussy carousel

Sounds like the victims are being treated as objects and the agency is entirely with the TiMs. The fact that the TiMs are enjoying themselves and feeling camaraderie is emphasized, but the only thing you find worth mentioning about the victims is that they're gender critical. If they were eager participants that seems like it's a more important fact than the fact that they belong to the political group you hate.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-31T19:24:06+00:00

9/10 trans people commit suicide? Quick, we need to encourage more children to be trans to fix this issue.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-31T19:13:13+00:00

By the way, why didn't they keep them? I can recognize hate speech when I hear one. Do they think people are too stupid to understand?

Yes

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-30T14:32:43+00:00

Most gender dysphoric children grow up to be gay / lesbian and resolve their dysphoria

Those are the new fourteen words apparently.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-30T10:26:56+00:00

Had to burn this whole thread down because some of y'all are hateful idiots.

If only there was some sort of tool that would allow us to see the "hateful" comments that you had to remove so we could judge for ourselves https://www.removeddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/ij4npe/mommy_im_actually_a_girl/

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-29T10:11:38+00:00

There was an image board that I used to post on, a TRA would constantly bring up suicide attempts whenever anyone called him out on his predatory behavior and I would always post something from an article on what to do when someone threatens to commit suicide in order to control you. Of course, the other TRA orbiters would get mad at me for spamming.

Abusers know just what will make us react. Many abusers use the manipulation tool of threatening suicide or self-harm to keep us tethered to them. Why does this work and what can we do to keep ourselves emotionally and physically safe?

Why this tactic works

Abusers manipulate those around them at every turn. They do so for the sole purpose of getting what they want. When they manipulate, intimidate and threaten us, they are using the FOG technique. First coined by Susan Forward in her book, Emotional Blackmail, the FOG technique describes how manipulative individuals use fear, obligation, and guilt to trigger someone into reacting.

When abusers threaten suicide or self-harm, they are causing the fear to rise within us so that we don’t leave. In this way, threats of suicide are being used as a method of control. They may go so far as to claim that we don’t care enough about them and that they have lost the will to live. They may sit crumpled up on the floor and cry their fake tears just to make us fear for their safety. Or, they may even loop an extension cord around their neck while making the same threat of suicide or self-harm. This is all so that they can trap us into staying with them.

Their goal is to cause us to feel guilty if something were to happen to them. They are playing on our emotions of love for them and they know that. They may even say, “Well if you really loved me, you wouldn’t let me kill myself.”

Be wary though that if emergency services are called, they will work their manipulation magic on emergency services personnel to convince them that nothing is wrong and that they are okay.

You aren’t responsible for them It is often said that we aren’t responsible for another person’s actions. This is especially true when it comes to abusers. We are not responsible for what they say and do to us. We are not responsible for their mental health status, either. We are also not responsible for what they do when we leave them.

They want us to think we are, though. They want us to believe that we determine their happiness. They want us to think we are doing something wrong if they make these threats. They may say we aren’t trying hard enough or that we don’t love them enough. They may even say if we worked hard on ourselves to “get better” then things would be okay and you’d be one big happy family.

But, if there is one thing to take away from this article, it’s this: You are not responsible for them. You are not responsible for whether they decide to commit this action. What we are responsible for is ourselves and our emotions and actions. We get to decide what we do with our lives. We decide what to feel. We are not responsible for them, and likewise, they are not responsible for us.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-28T16:31:10+00:00

Plenty of men fetishize pregnancy. And until the Yaniv drama I had no idea that some men fetishized menstruation so I don't see why there can't be men who fetishize menopause.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-28T03:05:48+00:00

“The original piece in question was a difficult and frankly irresponsible read — especially in light of the fact that 21 trans people have been murdered in 2020 so far (the vast majority of whom are Black trans women),”

Why do they always bring race into this? Seriously, I know that that's the exact sort of language that a lot of people use when they don't want to address real racial issues, but in this case it's not a racial issue at all. Why did they bring race into this? Is it because they're trying to hide behind black civil rights the same way that they hide behind LGB civil rights?

Is 20 murders in 8 months even disproportionate for black males? Looks like over 6000 black men were murdered in 2018, so if we assume that the numbers would stay similar in 2020 (which is admittedly not a reasonable assumption) and we assume that 0.6% of black men are trans (which is the rate for US adults in general according to this study) then that's on par. Which would mean that, once again, TRAs are appropriating a problem that faces marginalized communities to try to make themselves look like victims.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-26T22:34:32+00:00

Disagree. When I first heard the term "TERF" I looked it up and was really only familiar with liberal feminism and my main exposure to trans lunacy was the ones who clearly embraced a lesbian identity because being a heterosexual male made it easy to call them out on their problematic behavior. So when I saw these feminists (who I assumed were also pushing intersectionality since liberal feminists are basically the only ones getting publicity) then saying that it was patriarchy pushing these men to appropriate the lesbian identity it kind of irked me because these men (despite obviously being bad feminists) were clearly immersed in (a degenerate form of) feminist ideology, not any sort of (openly) male-centered ideology. To someone who doesn't know that radical feminism is a completely different school of thought rather than a different level of commitment "trans-exclusionary radical feminist" doesn't really explain a whole lot, it just sounds like you view being male as an original sin that can never be cleansed. It's not even an accurate label since so-called "TERFs" are trans-inclusionary regarding TiFs (though a fair few TRAs, on the rare occasion that they acknowledge their existence, seem to simultaneously argue that TiFs belong in both male-only spaces and female-only spaces because they are forced to recognize the fact that they aren't really any safer in male-only spaces than any other females would be). And frankly, defining an ideology by who it won't include is just inherently negative.

I think that gender-critical is a far better term. Right off the bat it makes it clear that these feminists don't endorse the idea of gender which I think is a more important pillar of the ideology. Obviously those of us who know the communities know that the two terms usually refer to the same people, but for a beginner being told that a community is trans-exclusionary radical feminists isn't particularly appealing while being told that they are against the role of gender in society is a lot more intriguing.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-23T03:57:54+00:00

That case of the 79-year-old getting his leg amputated in Mexico and dying of gangrene was performed by John Robert Brown, one of the early pioneers of SRS

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-21T17:43:44+00:00

Uhhh, I'd always thought it was just an open fact that it was. When I first heard the term "roasties" (an incel term for women) I had to look it up (it legitimately wasn't clear from the context) and the resources I found weren't feminist but explicitly described the etymology as being an attempt to create a female corollary to dick insults.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-21T17:35:48+00:00

Why does he want to remove Thomas Jefferson and not Andrew Jackson (ironically the first Democratic president)? It's not because he loves Jackson so much and hates Jefferson, it's because he doesn't want a woman (especially a black woman) on one of the most commonly used denominations.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-21T17:26:50+00:00

They've been coopting GNC kids for a long time now

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-17T19:03:10+00:00

Despite making up only 50% of the population men commit 80% of all violent crimes

Is it really only 80%? Like, I'm not man-hater, but that seems low to me.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-17T09:24:50+00:00

"Folx" really takes the cake for me. While "womyn", "latinx", and "people of color" all grate, I can at least sort of understand why people are looking for an alternative term. Folks is already a completely gender neutral term with no real baggage attached to it.

And even compared to other wacky PC linguistic trends like people-first language, it is especially pointless because at least with people-first language the claim that "putting 'person' at the start of a label humanizes the subject" makes some surface level logic (if you ignore the fact that English typically puts the most important part last). They haven't even come up with a serious justification for why it's necessary.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-17T01:15:17+00:00

Though-terminating cliche

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-08T06:59:44+00:00

TERF is used to describe cisgender women who self-identify as feminist but who are opposed to including transgender women

So, women who don't think men can be women "self-identify" but men who think that they can be women are "transgender women". Everything about this shit is outrageous.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-07T09:31:46+00:00

Genuinely surprised that TRA is being arrested, but also kind of confused. With all the violent shit that they're constantly posting towards women why did this one guy get arrested?

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-04T06:50:55+00:00

Not sure that William Shatner is really an ally that I particularly want. Not going to turn him away, just not personally thrilled to have him on the same side.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-02T21:18:03+00:00

So many of these TRAs claim to have mental illnesses that they really don't have (DID is an especially annoying one that they'll claim), but they will get outraged if you suggest that they may have narcissistic personality disorders or that gender dysphoria is a symptom of mental illness (about a quarter of all schizophrenics report gender dysphoria, it's so common that it has a name, I think "delusional pseudo transsexualism").

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-01T09:32:02+00:00

The gay man -- because you know, you score more points for being trans AND gay (and that's totally not straight!)

That's the funny thing. To transactivists TiMs are simultaneously oppressed for being women and for not being seen as women. To many of these same transactivists TiFs are simultaneously privileged for being men and for being women. It's strange, almost as if a lot of the trans community is dominated by misogynistic men who hate women, even when those women claim to be men.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-01T09:07:55+00:00

I think this is about actually self-identified fujoshis.

buttbuttinator · 2020-08-01T09:05:45+00:00

Sammy Trans (the one with the especially bad wig and the deformed face) is now a born-again Christian. He detransitioned, but frankly I'm not sure that it's much of an improvement. Don't know what brand of Christianity he's in now, but he seems to have swung hard right, then again there's a lot of conservative thought underlying trans ideology.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T20:21:22+00:00

I ticked every box as a kid for what would now be called persistent gender dysphoria, but I was just a tomboy and recognized as such

This made me curious and I decided to look for a checklist of gender dysphoria symptoms to compare myself against and found this online test. I answered "somewhat" or "maybe" for everything, and got "Strong Indication of Gender Dysphoria". Then I tried answering "no" to everything (the questions are all asking if you feel uncomfortable with your sex/gender/life). Then I only got "moderate". I know it's not an actual medical resource, but I just think it's so representative that there is literally no way to get a result that you are not gender dysphoric.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T18:56:57+00:00

Or a deep enough grave

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T17:02:43+00:00

I used to always be willing to acquiesce on pronouns because, frankly, I always thought that gendered pronouns were bullshit. The point of pronouns is to be general and universal. There are some things that get their own pronouns; non-sentience gets you an "it", being a group gets you a "they". Deep, fundamental things. But why does gender get you different pronouns?

So I never viewed men wanting she/her pronouns (or women wanting he/him) as important enough to argue against, but I also didn't think that they were entitled to it.

As for people wanting to be called singular they/them? I oppose that because demanding special pronouns for yourself does nothing to fix the issue of gendered pronouns, it just adds another set of pointless rules. The real solution is for people to always use they/them to refer to other people, unfortunately that clashes with the retarded pronoun cult.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T15:31:38+00:00

The problem was people like you who took the whole thing way too seriously and tried to get rid of people for saying things you didn't like, like you did here

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T15:28:44+00:00

I already had a fake account, so it was no big deal. At the time I made the account I had been pissing off a lot of white supremacists and one of them thought he'd doxed me so I made the account with that name and started posting on their YouTube. I originally made it as a joke, but I've been using it ever since then as my browser account. I send e-mails on my phone.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-18T04:37:10+00:00

So, for what it’s worth I opened a Google docs link while in private mode and it automatically logged me in with my account.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-17T14:35:47+00:00

I always thought the idea of some innocent person accidentally getting caught up in one of those stings was a possibility until I actually watched an episode and realized that they actually make sure that the person engages in outright sexual discussions. It might legally be entrapment in some cases, but it's definitely pedophilia regardless.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-16T01:30:04+00:00

How is that a "shady little insult", and how does it require you to "stick up for [your]self"?

Even if you consider it an insult, they weren't even saying that it was their own opinion, just what Biden was saying.

Chill the hell out.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-16T01:07:23+00:00

I think

I told a literature grad student that if we gandered at each other maybe one of us would end up getting goosed, the kind of nerdy wordplay I sensed he'd like. I was off to a good start, and passed the phone around to show them how text flirtation was done.

is even worse.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-16T00:51:31+00:00

Get your left extremist crap outa here. You ruined reddit with that crap, and now you're trying to come here with it?

Seems to me like you're the one who is more interested in censoring people for having opinions that you don't like. Their post was entirely moderate and non-confrontational, and you come out swinging, claiming that they're trying to ruin this forum. You go and get your extremist crap out of here.

buttbuttinator · 2020-07-16T00:44:13+00:00

So if this crybaby thinks it's misogynistic to refuse to date trans men

Most likely they're using "misogynistic" to make their accusation seem more feminist since GenderCynical is still pretending to be a feminist subreddit.

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