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[–]buttbuttinator 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Woke media is seriously so dumb because they don't seem to realize that all this type of controversy does is publicize Shrier (and Rowling) work to those who wouldn't have been interested otherwise.

I'd never really had to think about the transing of kids until Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders and I kept on hearing the woke brigade calling for Sanders to denounce him because he was against puberty blockers for kids. That forced me to actually research puberty blockers (a better name would probably be brain destroyers) and then (instead of just thinking that trans people suffered from an illness but other than bathrooms and lockers and stuff that it was harmless to go along with their beliefs) I suddenly believed that trans ideology was a threat in and of itself.

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That is great. That's what I mean about how some of our allies in our fight are so unlikely, like Joe Rogan.

Glad you're aware now and have joined us to try to stop these kids' lives from being destroyed.

[–]jkfinn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Joe Rogan, who has been pushing the lies about Antifa setting forest fires in Oregon, despite the fact that every state agency involved in the fires has zero evidence to this and never did, and has been actively trying to shut down the dangerous rumors which have caused traffic checks by vigilantes, who are ready to assault anyone found with gasoline inside their vehicle. This is the volatile Joe Rogan.

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I know. I have huge issues with Rogan. And I also hate how men seem to treat him like their version of Oprah (sorry, not a fan of her either) and hang on every word he says, no matter how ridiculous.

I actually like his shows when his guests are scientists: when he has a guest on who's discussing something way beyond his ken, he lets the guest talk. I don't think he's a bad interviewer, because he asks the "dumb" questions the layperson would ask an expert, and most of us are laypeople when discussing science.

[–]jkfinn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree with this. And yeah to the Oprah part.

[–]yousaythosethings 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He already posted a video apologizing for this mid information and stating he was wrong so you’re being a little alarmist.

[–]jkfinn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, I read this in Time Magazine, so I doubt I'm being alarmist. I just reported what I knew at the time. And because he's apologized, doesn't mean it wasn't ignorant and very wrongful in the first place.

[–]yousaythosethings 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea I do think this information does strongly weigh against the implications of your statements about Joe Rogan since the point you seemed to be making was that he is no ally.

Being able to admit you’re wrong, retract and apologize are definitely the qualities you want in an ally. Shows you prioritize learning what’s true and right over being right yourself.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jkfinn, what? You think Time Magazine is reliable, "balanced" journalism?

It's owned by ultra-woke Silicon Valley tech titan Marc Benioff, CEO of Salesforce, a billionaire SJW and huge trans activist. He's a major player in of the campaign to use "inclusivity" and "fairness" to roll back girls' and women's privacy, dignity and safety in favor of "trans rights." He was a major funder of the fight against the pro-female bathroom bills in NC and elsewhere.

Benioff is a major backer of the ACLU and its campaign to open up female sports to males with cross-sex "gender identity" claims, and to have male convicts placed in prisons based on their professed gender identity.

https://www.prweek.com/article/1425277/tech-sector-leads-corporate-pushback-against-trans-student-reversal

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there any way you could catalogue all this information and put it onto a website?

Maybe ask an existing GC website to host it?

I just hate to think that if this sub gets shut down all this valuable information will be lost.

[–]buttbuttinator 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not even a Joe Rogan fan and I probably would have gone the rest of my life without ever watching an episode of his show if it hadn't been for the fucking slander he was getting.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Getting more publicity because someone tried to hide or censor you is called the Streisand Effect. By trying to shut Joe Rogan down over his "transphobic" episodes, these nimnut trans activist Spotify employees are only making Rogan and this issue more prominent.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

(a better name would probably be brain destroyers)

Marketing said no.

[–]buttbuttinator 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is genuinely a bit terrifying how the effects of GnRH agonists on teenage brains is just completely ignored. When I was doing my research I found a study that found a 8 point IQ drop compared to the control. Now granted, it was a small group and the p-score was 9% when 5% is the standard, but they said that anything less than a standard deviation of IQ drop wasn't concerning (they did not say that it was statistically insignificant, they said 8 IQ points was insignificant). 5 μg/dL of lead in your child's blood stream is tied to about 1.5 points of IQ drop and we (understandably) freaked out about that despite it being 1/10th of a standard deviation. This study found that puberty blockers had a similar impact as injecting 1000 μg of lead directly into your child's bloodstream and this study was trying to say that it was no biggie because it was less of an effect than 2000 μg of lead.

And if a result that size gives you a confidence interval of less than 95% then what's the point of such a small sample size? Other studies with larger sample sizes did confirm the results BTW with much better than 95% confidence interval. Pretty much any study on GnRH agonists and IQ links them with a massive lowering of IQ and (in animal tests) cognitive functions. The fact that they are doing this to children is genuinely horrifying, at least when they originally started prescribing it for precocious puberty they didn't realize how damaging it was, but at this point there's absolutely no excuse.

[–]divingrightintowork 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd love to see these studies! If you have them accessible

[–]buttbuttinator 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4940404/ (8 point IQ difference)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5253377/ (commentary on the above study)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333793/ (study on sheep)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11683207/ this one doesn't have as many details available to the general public, but it does mention that "Intelligence quotient levels decreased significantly during treatment." and is mentioned in the commentary posted above)