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[–]SharpTomorrow 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

5/10 years ago everybody started to claim they were "feminists" including a bunch of males. The same people that profusely use the "karen" meme, claimed that porn was empowering and believe in gender theory. That's the problem. "libfem" isn't feminism. Many women on the left have been fed some fake version of feminism.

[–]vitunrotta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

THIS. Was about to make the exact same comment. I myself opted out of the so-called liberal "feminism" entirely because it started to sound like utter nonsense (which is is, consequently). I also didn't have the patience to tell everyone that while I still thought I was some sort of a feminist, I wasn't one of those feminists. Over time, I just stopped using the word feminist altogether because I felt libfems had robbed the entire movement, using it as an umbrella for absolutely every and any problem: no more a women's movement, it was just a random mishmash of everything. Not a day went by without hearing of their bizarre antics. It was embarrassing and I did not want to be lumped together with these morons (pardon my French).

I only begun calling myself a feminist again very recently, upon learning from radical feminism (that was painted as some terrible surf-and-TERF of old witches that wanted to burn all men at a stake and whatnot in the libfem circles). If anyone asks, I still refer to myself mostly as an egalitarian. A lot of people are wholly unaware that there ARE sensible feminists still out there, but it's too tiring to explain the differences.

Liberal/intersectional feminism: truly the most backwards, idiotic movement I've seen in a long time. BIG thanks to you guys for making feminism look stupid and useless, talking about preferred pronouns and unisex bathrooms, while simultaneously spitting on working class women and making unholy alliances with ultra-misogynist religions. Great job! /s

[–]vitunrotta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just to try to stick to the subject a bit: never did I think misogyny did not exist, quite the opposite. It was simply very clear that liberal feminism had no interest in ACTUAL feminism. Instead, they hopped on the train of porn positivity and kinks and "genderqueers" and TWAW and whatnot.

So, I'd wager that for many (perhaps especially in Europe) the word "feminism" was tarnished by libfems, but that doesn't mean people aren't actual feminists still. A lot of us are still hiding though, because we don't wish to be lumped together with a crowd of people who are actually first in line to deny biological women are a THING etc.