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[–]Freetochoose 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What a nutcase, the person on the far right. For that person, any man , just has to reduce their testosterones for a year and voila, go and compete with women. They've just further reinforced that they don't give a crap about actual women. Only their feels matter. And Pierce was right...that is absolutely ludicrous. So floyd weather in a year becomes Moyd Weather and he should compete with women. I mean, I get that transwomen are desperate, but come on!

[–]sisterinsomnia 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elsewhere on this site are references to two recent studies which both found that one year on estrogen does nothing to reduce male body advantage.

[–]MarkTwainiac 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The person on the far right there is Joanna Harper. Harper is the man who got the International Olympic Committee to change its rules in 2015 to allow men to compete in female sports after one year of lowered T.

Harper achieved this by providing "scientific evidence" supposedly proving that CSH and androgen blockers quickly turn males into dainty, frilly, weak shadows of their former selves who are incapable of opening pickle jars. Harper obtained this "scientific evidence" by comparing the anecdotal info about how the running times of eight TIMs he knew - including himself - had slowed after transition. Though the before and after times he compared were actually years or decades apart - in one case, 29 years apart. A total charlatan given total respect and credence based on trans male privilege.

[–]CastleHoward 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't wait for the Olympics. It will be a global peaking. It has the potential to be the number one story that everyone is talking about. Sport is about fair competition. Unfairness makes people feel bad.

[–]EnnuiOz 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aside from the obvious post pubescent secondary sex characteristics, I am yet to read about why it is permissible for TIMs to have a higher T level than biological women and not be done for doping.

Can anyone point me to a coherent argument for this?

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Go India. One of the handful of TW I'll respect with a 'she'.

Her Twitter is exactly what you'd expect of middle aged woman in broadcasting. No manic pixie girl crap or uwuing anywhere.

[–]greenish 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What? You obviously didn't see him on the "all female" Big Brother, berating the actual women in the house for trying to talk about anything serious, because it wasn't light and fluffy enough for his understanding of what women should talk about, and generally aggressively trying to control everyone. He's a misogynistic bully.

We can't pick and choose who to "respect" by allowing some men to pretend to be women if we like what they say, they're either female or they're not, and they're not.

[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

India is against TIMs in women's sports because India is clued-in enough to know that males in female sports is a PR disaster for the trans cause. India is anti TRA but a gung-ho genderist who wants to see sex stereotypes enforced on everyone. India India has stated publicly that he thinks women who don't shave their legs are dirty and disgusting.

Just because India is not an insane TRA doesn't mean India likes or respects women or has given up his male entitlement, as his appearance on Celebrity Big Brother showed:

https://youtu.be/PsJxpvGzo3E

Here's India saying men like India should be in women's rape and domestic violence refuges and saying women who protest male violence are "demonizing men" and casting aspersions without evidence:

https://youtu.be/lKBEpngVLz8

[–]Spikygrasspod 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. That second video was illuminating. Indiya trots out the usual fuckery whereby women's words (about male violence) are harmful and likely to cause violence. Yuck.