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[–]LesbiSilly 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, if we turn every masculine/ not womanly lady into a 'man' then... Welcome back to the 1950s!

[–]Porphyria 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or the 1850s, when women who did anything the slightest bit masculine were "unnatural creatures" who had "unsexed themselves" , and one thing that's interesting to me is that the Victorians, for all (mostly exaggerated) nonsense about how mealy-mouthed they were, had no problems with the word sex, eg, Lucretia Mott telling women to stand up for "the dignity of their sex" . It was the 20th century that started using "[have] sex'" for "copulate", and that made it a Dirty Word, so people started using gender to replace sex-and here we are. I distinctly remember my own mother getting angry back in the 1970s, when people used "gender" to mean "sex" : "That's a grammar term!" I didn't understand why she got so upset then ; now I do.

[–]questioningtw 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Even the 50s weren't that bad. The movie Grease had a female mechanic(yeah I know the film was filmed in the 70s but still) and there were women like Margaret Hamilton and Kathrine Johnson who worked in NASA doing calculations.

[–]LesbiSilly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True, true. And I like to think Rizzo is lesbian. Because she's so hot. XD

[–]yishengqingwa666 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I had a crush on Rizzo.

[–]LesbiSilly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me, too! She is a dream boat.

[–]unexpectedly_local 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

women like Margaret Hamilton and Kathrine Johnson who worked in NASA doing calculations "Fun" fact but prior to the 1930s, quantitative work, were actually seen as "women's work" because they were good at cookbook recipes and sewing patterns and procedural things like that. Qualitative assessments, like sociology that is now considered a "dumb" women's subject, was relegated to men because their brains were sooooo superior to make inferences on human nature and philosophical ideas.

Men tend to follow the money. By the 1960s and later (era Margaret Hamilton and Kathrine Johnson were at NASA), space was a big money industry. Computer science relaxed in between then and the dotcom boom and many women were able to gain an education. Male admission exponentially increased since the dotcom boom and current tech wave.