Boy, 16, was given estrogen for behavioral disorder while in L.A. juvenile hall, suit alleges

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

If he was sexually assaulting people then they give hormones to stop the urge, apparently, I can’t see the article so I have no idea if that is what this is about

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It was given for Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

This is anecdotal, but both boys I know who have been diagnosed have mentally ill (I am too, not judging, but they both have this in common) mothers who are overly dominating and don't allow the boys any choice in their lives. Bessel van derk Kolk in The Body Keeps the Score is very skeptical of this new diagnosis, as well.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So it’s “sick of your shit, you’re not even the boss of me!” disorder

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In the cases I know, yeah, it seems that way. I'm not surprised - there had to be a consequence/pushback of the helicopter parent/overly scheduled/afraid to be outside childhood.

[–]LoganBlade 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

with a probation officer like that, I think we would be hard-pressed to find someone who doesn't have Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

[–]medium_tomato[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think that is the case but if it was I would still argue that it is not okay to do that to a minor.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Definitely not okay. It just came to mind because I think they use hormones or hormonally active stuff for sex offenders sometimes. It seems like a really wild thing to give a child

[–]materialrealityplz 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The article that has now been posted certainly doesn't mention that, but it does make you wonder if there is anything else to the story. Because prescribing estrogen seems absolutely wild given what we're told in the article.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They left out a lot of info. I hate when they do that

[–]Nona_Biba 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was wondering this too. We give Depo Provera to pedophiles. And to men who have wildly inappropriate sexual behaviors (like constantly masturbating in front of others or on communal/ shared objects.) The article SAYS it was given for ODD but it also sounds like they got all the info from the boys lawyer. Who is biased to be frank and who knows if he has all the relevant information.

[–]Tovasshi 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They've moved away from using Depo and now use Lupron (same drug as puberty blockers) for chemical castration.

They also have to give consent to be treated. Chemical castration isn't forced on prisoners. It's offered to them in exchange for a shorter sentence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

YES! that’s what I mean. I remembered hearing pedos were getting some hormone stuff and men with really extreme sexual violence or odd stuff. Glad I wasn’t mis-remembering it. I figure the boy was doing some really creepy sexual stuff if they just didn’t give typical stuff like tranqs

[–]vitunrotta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, there's probably more to the story - however, taking into consideration the fact that the kid was underage, this kind of "treatment" is still wildly inappropriate. Someone said consent is required for chemical castration but how can you gain proper consent from a teenager...? Whatever the case is, it looks like they are using teens as guinea pigs. I mean, pharmaceutical companies are anything but stupid and most likely understand that the best way to make this kind of testing seem legal and appropriate is to target people in weaker positions (and also, of course, making "transgender" a goddamn trend).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When they do that, they use progesterone analogues like Depo Provera, not estrogen. And it probably still doesn't work.