I'm feeling weirdly optimistic for Saidit

submitted by jelliknight from self.GenderCritical

I know there's a lot of right wingers here, but most of us aren't scared of opposition. We know that the truth wins out in the end and the lack of a down vote button will prevent inconvenient fact checks from getting hidden even in the right wing areas.

As someone watching America from the outside, it seems like most hardcore right wingers are simply ignorant and being lied to by their media. I know from personal experience that discussion works (I've peak transed half a dozen people, leftied some righties, and convinced a hardcore capitalist on the benefits of a UBI).

I already like the experience of having to simply ignore shit responses instead of downvoting them. It changes the feel of using the site - it's less binary.

Dare i dream, that the current dominance of Gender Critical (8 of the top 10 posts on /s/all are currently GC) might win out in the long term?

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[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I sort of want Saidit (if not Saidit, than any other forum) to grow large enough to actually compete for Reddit. It's not a good thing for only one website to monopolize internet forum spaces.

[–]writerlylesbian 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

gendercritical also seems to have gained over 1000 users (I presume that is what 'readers' means) in the matter of a few hours. That's surely some kind of a new record?

[–]jelliknight[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

How many users/readers sidewide? is there any way to tell?

ETA the main sub has 33,000 users so let's go with that as a general estimate.

r/gendercritical had about 68,000 before the shutdown. Let's do it! Let's get all us GC people here and make saidit 60% GC!

[–]writerlylesbian 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Even if the site reaches a few thousand, that will probably make it a quite big and active site here. But it would be funny if we 'radicalised' the whole place. What a backfire to the censorship plans!

[–]venecia 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This gives me the same feeling as it did back when I watched ''woke'' Livejournal users take their university-educated cry-bullying to this new place called Tumblr in 2009-ish.

It just might take off!

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Earlier on, SaidIt had a policy where all users were auto-subscribed to all subs (in an attempt to stop smaller or newer subs from having difficulty getting participants, because people just weren't aware of them). So the subscriber counts are imo a bit skewed. I'm not sure if this policy has changed. I checked and the earlier created /s/BlackPillFeminism only has a few tens of readers so I don't think it's auto-subscribers in GC's count.

[–]SavvyDiogenes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I signed up after the gc reddit ban, I wasn't subbed I had to search it up manually. Considering that I signed up in tandem with this gc sub being created on saidit (after only one hour of it being created) i honestly doubt people are being autosubbed. The 1k count is legit.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I am extremely happy about the large influx of woman-centering women here, and women in general. I had just gotten back on reddit recently because I was thinking of trying to make a women's sub here and asking people to join after someone mentioned the reddit feminist subs here... well, not really what I was hoping would happen, but there are a lot of women here now!!

One thing I'm excited about is about having a non-controlled space where women can just talk to other women. Not just radfem-compliant women, or XYZ-feminism-compliant women, just women. Let us just talk to each other! Let us exchange ideas! Let us understand what each other actually think, and why! Let us have respectful dialogue with each other!

I haven't gotten around to making my sub, but something I've been wanting for a few years now since discovering GC is an "international women's sub". Not "feminist", just "pro-women". And yes that will mean different things for different women, that's the point of the "international" idea -- we're supposed to recognize each other's differences and sovereignty and collaborate respectfully where it makes sense.

I am also excited to see more women's perspectives on the site in general. I would love to see all the intelligent GC women spread their intelligence and their pro-woman-ness here. Check out /s/Feminism, for one... or maybe it's not worth engaging with people with ideological differences, and instead it's better to just demonstrate women's excellence by existing and being visibly active being intelligent and doing competent things.

[–]jelliknight[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"international women's sub"

sounds lovely. I'll join and rep Australia. I'd love to chat to some ladies from switzerland

I think it will be great for the GC women to spread out across subs. Totally encourage those here to jump in and put high quality responses on everything in r/all. There are enough of us that we can steer the tone if the whole place, and dont have to stay locked into the only non-misogynistic corner like on Reddit

[–]Lilith_Fair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The mods had to take this sub out of /s/all in order to keep it women-centered. But I don't think that's a problem. I agree I feel better here because I finally feel like I can speak. Even in the GC sub, I always felt like the sub was being monitored by people who hated us. Crazies were always harassing GC posters with hate PMs, banning them from other subs. I was very reluctant to participate by posting for fear of being doxxed. Finally here I feel like I'm free again. And despite the co-existence of ring wingers, the site admins have been very patient and welcoming.

I have seen some crazy, nauseating antisemitic, homophobic posts on this site. But the stuff they say are so looney-tune, I don't see these fringes having any influence whatsoever in any serious way. So if they just want to talk crazy nonsense, whatever. I've had it up to here with Woke speech policing so if some fringes are ranting like lunatics, I'd just roll my eyes and pass by like I do when I see the same in real life on the streets. It really is not "literal violence". In a way, being able to be here even with their presence actually proves that the Wokes and TRAs are lying. Letting people speak--even if what they say is outrageous and repulsive--does not mean the end of the world.

[–]jazzcigarettes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

im so glad they dont allow porn on here , makes it feel safer