To all the men already here

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    [–]fuckingsealions 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

    I don't just mean this as a mindless clapback, but you guys need to solve your own problems with misogyny and femicide before we're going to help you clean up aberrations in your chromosomal camp. We now need to protect ourselves from YOU and tims. We're busy.

    [–]Amareldys 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    If this is supposed to be r/GenderCritical II it's worth noting that there were men there and it worked well.

    [–]badMADam 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No GC still was a forum mainly by and for women, this IS one of the reasons why it worked so well. For men there is r/GenderCriticalGuys (same content, still on reddit).

    [–]Amareldys 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It was mainly by and for women but men were allowed, they often posted, and it wasn't a problem.

    [–]fuckingsealions 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm talking about irl.

    [–]Amareldys 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Gotcha

    [–]yishengqingwa666 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    "Maaan here".

    Yeah, whatever.

    [–]WinterWoman 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    GenderCritical is not a place for hating on men showing support. But this this place should be only reserved for Womens Voices. period. No arguement there!

    [–]YourSister 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Delighted you're here. I hadn't seen a post from you in awhile. (had another UN on reddit, but battled "cis" with you there)

    [–]Anonimouse 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    There is a gcmen sub on the other place. And there should be a mixed sex place for discussing this IMO as, with half of feminism against us, allies are good. But this isn't the place. My uni feminist group (despite many, many flaws) puts it rather nicely. Men are welcome in the collective to learn and support, so long as they can respect autonomous spaces and that some events must be women only. This is that women's only space.

    Once this account has been around long enough, I might make a more broad sub.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    /r/GC has never been a women's only space. It has always called it self a women-centered space (though that only includes some women).

    [–]homeless-g_c-mod 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    How are you going to have a "women-centered space" if it isn't populated and moderated by women??

    [–]DorothyGale 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well said.

    [–]radfemanon 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We have a limit currently on the amount of subs we can make, but we will also replace GenderCriticalGuys as well which was is a space designed for men to talk about gender critical issues.

    We are also discussing making a debate sub as there have been some users coming here who would like to debate on some of our concepts in radical feminism.

    Just so you know, there are women who participate in GC that are not welcoming to males who enter the sub to ask questions and this will be due to a number of factors. GC is intended as a female space and the rules of Reddit GC were that males could contribute but not derail, and the intention was to learn not to lecture. Males were routinely banned because they couldn't get on board with that.

    Now, Im not sure I agree. I trust the women here well enough to be capable of ignoring questions or comments they think are derailing ("sealioning", "what about ism" etc) but I do want to ensure this place is female centered. So I have put some rules of conduct in the side bar: no slurs, no doxxing. I will add "no off topic unless there is specified off topic post". I hope that helps.

    [–]WinterWoman 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I apreciate rational men, i know rational men exist. Some women on GC ive noticed are mainly voices of asian/non western origin. Whose societies have still to fix alot of issues with womens rights, and therefore are very aggressive on defending womens only spaces on the internet

    [–]Veneficca 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You could start a sub that is more about general trans lobby criticism? It seems like there is a massive wave of people dying to discuss this and ally together, and I'm all for that. You might even get censored/hassled less if it's seen as a general population sub and not a women's sub. I would definitely post there. But at the same time, women need a place of our own.