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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Male doesn’t mean whatever you want it to mean. Plenty of TRA even admit this.

Sex categories did not cease to exist to people who feel that their sex category is incorrect.

Every time you ask me to pretend along with you and say male and female mean whatever is convenient to you today, I’ll remind you that while I’m obliged to not ‘misgender’ users here, I’m never going to share your belief system just because it’s what you think is nicest.

Elliot isn’t gonna see anyone disagreeing with her or anyone complimenting her to appear super nice.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

But saying Elliot Page is the same sex as me is misgendering me. Page is a man, a guy, a dude. I am a woman which is a 180 of what he is.

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do you know it? You've been unable to define the characteristics of a woman so far. So, could you tell us with great detail how you and Page are completely opposite?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Man is the opposite of woman. Page is a man. Since I'm not, that's how we are opposites.

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Saying women and men are opposite is meaningless as long you won't describe HOW they are opposite.

I'm going to make up two words: haskilm and bopagi. What do they mean, you ask? Easy. A haskilm is anyone who says they are a haskilm. And a bopagi is anyone who says they are a bopagi. Do you not understand what i mean? No problem, I'm happy to explain. Haskilm and bopagi are opposite. That should clear things up, right? What? Still no clue? But I followed all your steps for defining words!

[–]Juniperius 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Elliot Page has to be female in order to be a transman. Could Jason Momoa decide that he is a transman?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elliot Page was assigned female at birth but at the moment he's not female. He's a man and I'm a woman, making us different sexes.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Stop conflating sex and gender to virtue signal. It’s intellectually dishonest and indicates you are arguing in the poorest faith.

You, Elliot, and I are all the same sex. Sex is not, never has been, and never will be determined by how someone feels. If Elliot wasn’t female, she’d never have a reason to transition.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Page is a man and I'm a woman. Since I'm not a man I don't want to be categorized with him.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The world does not operate in whatever convenient and contradictory ways you insist it does in order to virtue signal.

Your wants are meaningless nothings when compared to material reality. These arguments aren’t just intellectually dishonest, they’re wholesale stupid.

If page is male, why’d she get her breasts chopped out? Why does she take testosterone? Why does she identify as trans?

You are literally denying the reality of the transgender people you use to make yourself look holier than thou.

Today you can claim a man is the opposite of a woman but you have previously argued that those differences are something we made up, or that those differences are so miniscule compared to the importance of how one feels about them, that they may as well not exist. Now, when it is an opportunity to cry ‘misgendering’ sexed differences are so vast that male and female are opposites.
Do you see any flaw in your habit of arguing this way? Do you think it’s honest? Do you see why I cannot respect what you say and view it as nothing more than self-interested performance aimed at people desperate for acceptance and protection from reality?

You change what you claim more often than some people change their knickers. Why should anyone here take you seriously or accept any argument you make when you cannot stick to a single argument? You argue anything as long as it provides an opportunity to frame yourself as a nicer, more accepting person than us, but you literally deny the existence of actual transgender experiences if it’s easier to signal your alleged virtue.

It’s not a moral victory to use the people you claim you adore as a tool to flex how moral and nice you feel you are.