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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Im saying you know the concept of changing rooms being sexed.

I know the concept of changing rooms being sexed. You know I don't agree with sexed spaces.

And these facilities are still sex segregated- aside from people who think their sense of self matter more than actual reality. Gender identity can’t even be proven or accurately defined yet somehow how a man feels about himself matters more than the equality and safety of females as a whole.

But laws are changing. School districts are changing their policies, states are changing their laws, the YMCA and Planet Fitness changed their policy.

Just because a law exists doesn’t mean it’s not absolutely wrong.

We know you want sex segregated spaces. We don't.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I just feel like you only think about what you want and what an incredibly small portion of the population wants. It’s so incredibly selfish, harmful, and dangerous to others.

Jim Crow laws got worse before they got better, so idk why you think laws changing means they are fair and reasonable laws in the first place.

It will never be okay to hold 99% of the population hostage to the views and beliefs of 1%. Not ever. And any community that needs to step on the rights, equality and dignity of another group to get what they want is nothing less than toxic.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I just feel like you only think about what you want and what an incredibly small portion of the population wants.

Proof?

It will never be okay to hold 99% of the population hostage to the views and beliefs of 1%. Not ever.

No one is being held hostage. People can vote if they wish.

And any community that needs to step on the rights, equality and dignity of another group to get what they want is nothing less than toxic.

Sharing facilities with you is not violating your rights.

[–]BiologyIsReal 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How people can vote when TRAs keep covering up the facts? Here's an example of your own country. First the ACLU attempted to block a request for information about how many TW were housed in women's prisons in Washington. Now lawmakers want to pass a law so citizens cannot request this information. Why so much secretism if there is no problems over housing TW in the female state and most Americans believe sex is meaningless?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My whole thing is, if the general population was really as accepting and open to trans people as GB seems to think they are…

What the fuck are tras and trans people still complaining about? Certainly not the super small amount of people who don’t drink their kool-aid. It doesn’t make sense that we keep getting told that there’s an epidemic of violence and their rights are being stripped from them and all the other stuff they bitch about daily if what GB is saying is true.

Even the link GB offered states that the percentage of people in favor of trans people using the bathroom/space that matched their actual sex is increasing. None of what GB is saying checks out (shocker, I know).

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right. Either trans identified people are a marginalized and powerless population, or they are perfectly accepted by all people but a fringe hate group. They cannot have it both ways.