QT: What rights don’t trans people have?

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[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

In the US, it's legal for a hematologist to turn away someone seeking treatment for a skin condition; it's legal for a neurologist to refuse to treat people for allergies; it's legal for an eye surgeon to refuse to perform an abortion or hysterectomy; it's legal for a family practitioner to refuse to provide treatment for leukemia coz that's outside the FP's area of expertise ... and so on.

If a pregnant woman rocks up to an orthopedist's office & demands treatment for pre eclampsia, it's not illegal discrimination!

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (31 children)

It’s also legal for a doctor to refuse to give a trans person a tetanus shot or to see them for a non life threatening but painful condition just because they are trans. That’s wrong.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (25 children)

Tyra Hunter. Evan Minton. This survey says about 1 in 5 of us have been beside care .

https://www.thetaskforce.org/new-report-reveals-rampant-discrimination-against-transgender-people-by-health-providers-high-hiv-rates-and-widespread-lack-of-access-to-necessary-care-2/

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Self-reported survey.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (23 children)

How exactly would you do anything else for that information?

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

The study also references transition-related "healthcare" repeatedly, and doesn't make a distinction between transition-related procedures and other healthcare procedures, so your point is moot.

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

I provided 2 named examples and a survey. That’s more than I’ve seen showing it isn’t happening. Balls to you Hoss.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

You provided two anecdotes and a survey that doesn't match the criteria of the question asked. There is still zero proof that this is happening, only that trans people have been denied transition-related medical procedures. You're the one claiming it's happening, so the burden of proof is on you.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (19 children)

Tyra Hunter literally died due to being denied care for being trans. That survey didn’t specify transition related care. Just say you don’t care if trans people die and move on.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is in USA tetanus/diphteria vaccines are not mandatory and not forced on everyone? Or is it because of anti-vaxxers being strong in the USA - it is not the case? Or is it because of private healthcare in the USA, controlled by private organizations and need of health insurance?

I was charged $100, when avoided tetanus/diphteria vaccination for two years (I was just lazy to go there, and by not being vaccinated - I am endangering people around myself). If you got biten by a dog - you are forced to take tenatus shot as well. All for free. If it was wild or stray animal who bitten you, then course of anti-rabies injections is prescribed as well.

So it sounds really wild and barbaric to me, when people are being denied such basic and free vaccines or injections.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

They are not free and are not mandatory though most public schools require certain vaccines before attending.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

America, I guess...

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe this is area-by-area. As you say, DipTet vacs are required for children entering public schools. Certain professions require adult boosters or titers proving immunity (I'm in one of those). In my county, I can get a free/reduced fee booster for most of the vacs I require for work, because the county and state mandate those boosters -- so their public health clinics provide them. I'm sure it varies widely depending on where one is.