QT: What rights don’t trans people have?

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[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (25 children)

Tyra Hunter. Evan Minton. This survey says about 1 in 5 of us have been beside care .

https://www.thetaskforce.org/new-report-reveals-rampant-discrimination-against-transgender-people-by-health-providers-high-hiv-rates-and-widespread-lack-of-access-to-necessary-care-2/

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Self-reported survey.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (23 children)

How exactly would you do anything else for that information?

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

The study also references transition-related "healthcare" repeatedly, and doesn't make a distinction between transition-related procedures and other healthcare procedures, so your point is moot.

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

I provided 2 named examples and a survey. That’s more than I’ve seen showing it isn’t happening. Balls to you Hoss.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

You provided two anecdotes and a survey that doesn't match the criteria of the question asked. There is still zero proof that this is happening, only that trans people have been denied transition-related medical procedures. You're the one claiming it's happening, so the burden of proof is on you.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (19 children)

Tyra Hunter literally died due to being denied care for being trans. That survey didn’t specify transition related care. Just say you don’t care if trans people die and move on.

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

That survey didn’t specify transition related care.

From the survey:

*Despite barriers, the majority has accessed some form of transition-related medical care, but only a minority has had any surgery, despite the fact that a strong majority stated wanting to have it someday.

This clearly implies that the "necessary care" described by the survey is transition-related. Even if I were to accept your ridiculous claim that it doesn't, it still doesn't show the number of people who were denied normal healthcare as opposed to transition-related treatment, so the survey is worthless and proves nothing.

Tyra Hunter literally died due to being denied care for being trans.

Yes, that was horrific. However, it was very much against the law. Meaning that trans people do have the legal right to non-transition-related medical care.

Just say you don’t care if trans people die and move on.

Lol you are embarrassing yourself. I know it hurts your feelings to claim something, be called out, and not be able to provide proof, but there's no reason to get hostile with me.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (17 children)

However, it was very much against the law. Meaning that trans people do have the legal right to non-transition-related medical care.

You are wrong. Emergency care is separately protected but there is no right to access non emergency care. You are factually wrong. This isn’t an edge case or a judgment issue. You are just wrong.