QT: What rights don’t trans people have?

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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (33 children)

It is legal to deny non emergency care to trans people.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

In the US, it's legal for a hematologist to turn away someone seeking treatment for a skin condition; it's legal for a neurologist to refuse to treat people for allergies; it's legal for an eye surgeon to refuse to perform an abortion or hysterectomy; it's legal for a family practitioner to refuse to provide treatment for leukemia coz that's outside the FP's area of expertise ... and so on.

If a pregnant woman rocks up to an orthopedist's office & demands treatment for pre eclampsia, it's not illegal discrimination!

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (31 children)

It’s also legal for a doctor to refuse to give a trans person a tetanus shot or to see them for a non life threatening but painful condition just because they are trans. That’s wrong.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (25 children)

Tyra Hunter. Evan Minton. This survey says about 1 in 5 of us have been beside care .

https://www.thetaskforce.org/new-report-reveals-rampant-discrimination-against-transgender-people-by-health-providers-high-hiv-rates-and-widespread-lack-of-access-to-necessary-care-2/

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Self-reported survey.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (23 children)

How exactly would you do anything else for that information?

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

The study also references transition-related "healthcare" repeatedly, and doesn't make a distinction between transition-related procedures and other healthcare procedures, so your point is moot.

Please provide examples with receipts of specific cases where trans people in the US have been refused standard & customary medical care by an ER, urgent care center, GP, NP, telemedicine provider, EMS, ambulance service or any practitioner or specialist in any medical field "because they are trans."

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

I provided 2 named examples and a survey. That’s more than I’ve seen showing it isn’t happening. Balls to you Hoss.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

You provided two anecdotes and a survey that doesn't match the criteria of the question asked. There is still zero proof that this is happening, only that trans people have been denied transition-related medical procedures. You're the one claiming it's happening, so the burden of proof is on you.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is in USA tetanus/diphteria vaccines are not mandatory and not forced on everyone? Or is it because of anti-vaxxers being strong in the USA - it is not the case? Or is it because of private healthcare in the USA, controlled by private organizations and need of health insurance?

I was charged $100, when avoided tetanus/diphteria vaccination for two years (I was just lazy to go there, and by not being vaccinated - I am endangering people around myself). If you got biten by a dog - you are forced to take tenatus shot as well. All for free. If it was wild or stray animal who bitten you, then course of anti-rabies injections is prescribed as well.

So it sounds really wild and barbaric to me, when people are being denied such basic and free vaccines or injections.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

They are not free and are not mandatory though most public schools require certain vaccines before attending.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

America, I guess...

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe this is area-by-area. As you say, DipTet vacs are required for children entering public schools. Certain professions require adult boosters or titers proving immunity (I'm in one of those). In my county, I can get a free/reduced fee booster for most of the vacs I require for work, because the county and state mandate those boosters -- so their public health clinics provide them. I'm sure it varies widely depending on where one is.