GC: What are the differences between sex segregation and racial segregation? Why is the former required, while the latter is discriminatory?

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[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

It's also NOT customary behavior for lesbians and bi women, either. At all.

I am often ashamed to look in such spaces at all, as I feel a bit guilty. And most lesbians I know are not looking at other women, especially not staring in such spaces.

[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, if anything, lesbian and bi women in such spaces tend to overcompensate by being especially circumspect. Because so many have been raised to think/fear that other women all assume lesbians look upon everyone of their own sex in an inappropriate, prurient way.

[–]Tea_Or_Coffee[S] 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

I am often ashamed to look in such spaces at all, as I feel a bit guilty.

May I ask why you feel guilty?

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Because they are in safe space and I may make them feel uncomfortable.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that you feel and behave as you do so as not to make other women feel uncomfortable is a prime illustration that lesbians and bi women were socialized as women and are entirely different to men!

[–]Elvira95 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Having your eyes all over me wouldn't make me uncomfortable, actually quite happy. Oh wait, I'm a lesbian, forgot that :D

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

You found me even here :D

[–]Elvira95 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I hope to find you in person as soon as possible :D

[–]Tea_Or_Coffee[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Aww 🥺 Hope you and u/VioletRemi finally meet soon 🥰

[–]Elvira95 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, it's shitty that we're both in very complicated condition in our lives and far, yet I have completely fall in love, even if it's very unlikely to have a real relationship. Sometimes you find the perfect person who makes you feel close to her, even if she's so far and from completely different culture and country. I still hold some hope though. Thanks.

[–]Tea_Or_Coffee[S] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I can feel how hard it is for you :( I haven't ever been in a relationship myself because socialization drains me (I can manage online interactions more than the ones in reality) and I'm never able to take good care of myself let alone a relationship. But I've learned a few things about it watching other relationships, so my advice to you and u/VioletRemi would be not to give up on your love for each other. View the distance between you as a learning journey, a test.

Instead of thinking that the long distance is pulling you two apart, believe that through this experience, you will be bound together even stronger.

You can use video chats to at the very least meet face to face too! I'm sure you will meet one day though. Fingers crossed wishes

P.S. my dms are always open if you want to vent about this to someone and need support!

[–]Elvira95 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Awww, you're cute. Interactions drain me too. you can use app to meet people. It's always the best way to meet someone anyway. beign introverted doesnt' mean you cannot find someone to stay with. Me and VioletRemi are both extreme introverted, that's why we like each others so much, we're very similar in lots of ways.

Anyway, thanks. And never stop believing you can find someone. Although Ive got that before being in relationship you need to fix problem in your life and I need lots of problems to fix. You can't stay with someone if you can't stay well with yourself. Relationships are wonderful but shouldn't be seen as a need not to be miserable, because it's hard to find the right one, and better alone than with the wrong person. I know, it's hard since emotional connection and sex are very important needs. But that's the truth. Good luck and thanks again

[–]jackrusselterror1 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. I’m bisexual and I either beeline for a private space if possible at a communal locker/shower area, or I face away from any person and change as quickly as possible. Tbf I think most women try to rush through this with minimal interaction, the locker room isn’t a magical gathering place for women to converse and bond. I do judge people who start up conversations with strangers in these places or can’t stop staring in locker rooms or bathrooms, there’s no reason we can’t save talking for when I’m actually fully dressed or not on the toilet, and I wish they’d have a little social awareness please.

Consent is extremely important, and no one wants to be watched with sexual intent when vulnerable. Like I said, I’m attracted to other women, but even if I was attracted to the woman eyeing me in a locker room, I’d find the lack of tact and consideration for others completely off putting and wonder what other boundaries that person routinely breaks.