Chicken Cream Soup With Broccoli - internacionalkitchen.com by InternacionalKitchen in Foodfun

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mmmm

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Writing, which is an essential aspect of civilization, was indeed invented by the Sumerians well before 5th century BC Greece.

However, in terms of governance, the Persians and everybody else used the same system (government by some 'Alpha male', with perhaps some subservient allies) most commonly used in apes, including non-human ones, like chimps and gorillas.

Most peoples' instincts draw them to this so strongly that they'll invent some imaginary eternal alpha-male dictator/emperor/king/warlord/lord-deity to worship, lest, god forbid, they should find themselves without one.

What the Greek miracle achieved is to invent (besides philosophy/science, the Logos/logic, reason over superstition, medicine, etc.) politics, Democracy and everything else we consider truly civilized.

Basically, that you're not, today, the subservient bitch of some warlord or rabbinate (claiming to speak for some invisible supreme warlord in the sky) is thanks to some great thinkers in 5th century BC Greece.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Greece wasn't a great civiliser.

They were great because they were a small nation who achieved a lot within their nation. Persia thought they were a minor nuisance.

But both existed many hundreds of years after the original civilisations.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. By that logic, beer and bread are even less of a factor.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, agriculture was certainly a factor, a necessary, but (and here's the thing) not a sufficient factor on the path to civilization.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I still don't think that's what's going on here. I don't think the author was attributing any one person with brilliance due to bread or beer, just making the case as to which one really lead the charge to societal evolution. I'd say simply moving from hunter-gatherer to an agrarian society was the biggest factor. Being able to grow and store crops allowed humanity to have more time for other pursuits like education, technology, economics, etc. If we were still tromping around the woods for our next meal every day, there's not much room to ponder anything or even plan for much else but the next empty stomach.

I like Jarod Diamond's Guns Germs and Steel. Just considering what was the biggest factor in holding back the Papua New Guineans from evolving past the stone age we can see that it's the lack of arable land and staple crops. I don't think it's really about bread or bear, but agriculture in general that pushed us to a new level.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a tendency to dismiss the creative brilliance of a group of people and to instead assign their brilliance to economic factors:

Materialist conception of history

Inspired by Enlightenment thinkers, especially Condorcet, the utopian socialist Henri de Saint-Simon (1760–1825) formulated his own materialist interpretation of history, similar to those later used in Marxism, analyzing historical epochs based on their level of technology and organization and dividing them between eras of slavery, serfdom, and finally wage labor. According to the socialist leader Jean Jaurès, the French writer Antoine Barnave was the first to develop the theory that economic forces were the driving factors in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_materialism

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only that the civilizers, the Hellenes and Romans, happened to drink wine ... so beer has nothing to do with it.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

did you mean Marxist-like?

yes.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is materialist (Maxist-like) nonsense. Serious question, did you mean Marxist-like? And materialist? Not sure what that has to do with any of this even the article.

I guess that both are nutritional in similar ways (carbs), and both bring people together. Do we really need to know which was first in this scenario? They both come from a move from hunter/gatherer to agrarian. Both have their part to play. I do prefer beer though.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is about the fact that when we analyse the remains of ancient people we find that most early farmers had a very meat heavy diet so they weren't eating most of the grain they grew. Most of it was likely being used for animal feed to produce the meat but some could be for alcohol.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They will both be as old as each other. If you leave a pot of water and wheat a few weeks you get beer whether you like it or not.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's more the processes you have to go through to harvest wheat and brew beer which causes people to civilise.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I remember correctly bread has been around much longer than beer.

Did Bread or Beer Create Civilization? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right, so, if you give some bread or beer to chimps, they become civilized!

But seriously, of course not.

This is materialist (Marxist-like) nonsense.

The brilliance of some people, who also happened to drink wine not beer, created civilization.

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eh, it's no rumor that the rumor hurt their business. Seems very widespread and documented for something that long ago. There's a right way to report that.

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]RupertTaylor493[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the information, but I don't publish "rumours." There is so much misinformation about today that I try not to add to it.

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ha, sorry to give you a hard time!

There's no credible source for the claim that Henry's used horse meat. There are definitely sources that describe the rumor to that effect, though, and its impact on the chain. This video is a pretty good example: https://youtu.be/mjCItpt9lFY

I get the impression that Wikipedia used to include mention of the rumor, but at some point it was sanitized. You can still find the relevant text at sites thar mirror or plagiarize Wikipedia, e.g. https://alchetron.com/Henry's-Hamburgers

Going back to that YouTube video, there are mentions in the comments of soybeans and (!) earthworms being used as filler by Henry's.

Bottom line is that there were definitely rumblings about the content of Henry's meat, and they spread like wildfire. Whether these were planted by competitors, grounded in reality, or just some kind of a joke is a question whose answer is likely lost forever, but I tend to subscribe to the theory that "where there's smoke, there's fire."

I vaguely recall someone on a message board even mentioning subtle changes to their advertising (removal of any "all beef" claim) that hinted at the presence of some sort of adulterant. I'll post again if I can find that.

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]RupertTaylor493[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apologies for the misspelling of Benton Harbor, I was unthinkingly using Canadian spelling of harbour. I have corrected this. Thanks for the alert.

As to the horse meat allegation, I can find no credible source for this. There are stories about Wendy's admitting to using horse meat, but these are debunked by Snopes. Can you direct me to a credible source?

Failed Restaurant Chains by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you manage to misspell "Benton Harbor" and omit mention of Henry's serving horse-burgers?

Do better, Delishably. This is the most disappointing Henry's Hamburger content I've seen in weeks.

Tourtière: The Delicious French Canadian Meat Pie by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How many French Canadians needed?

Somebody gave us some freshly-can rhubarb so my wife made a pie by chottohen in Foodfun

[–]chottohen[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was. We tried it hot and cold and both were delicious.

Somebody gave us some freshly-can rhubarb so my wife made a pie by chottohen in Foodfun

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yum, I love rhubarb. Looks great!

Somebody gave us some freshly-can rhubarb so my wife made a pie by chottohen in Foodfun

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Looks awesome!

Somebody gave us some freshly-can rhubarb so my wife made a pie by chottohen in Foodfun

[–]chottohen[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A bit lop-sided but tastes great.

The Bad News About Avocados by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Literally any cash crop which can be grown in Mexico is going to have the same effect until they get their country in order.

It's not the fault of avos or weed or anything else.

If there was no money going into Mexico then Human Rights Watch would just be calling the West evil over that.

Unique Beverages From Around the World You've Never Heard Of by RupertTaylor493 in Foodfun

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I worked IT for Coca Cola World HQ in downtown Atlanta back in the day. They had free soft drink fountains and machines everywhere. I haven't had a soft drink since I worked there. They had one that was widely known as being awful. It was very popular.

Fake Foods: What You Need to Know About Food Swindlers by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There is a problem with cumin adulterated with or replaced totally by sawdust, and it's easy to test. Sawdust floats in water, real cumin doesn't.

I got a bad jar and found out about this when I searched "why does my cumin taste like sawdust."

Edit: you can also avoid fake cumin by buying whole cumin and grinding it to a powder yourself. Indian stores should definitely have it.

The Strange Appeal of Super Spicy Food by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the thrill of the huge endorphin rush. You see, the brain detects major burns and compensates by flooding the brain with endorphins, to help with the pain. Except he isn't actually getting his face burnt off. It just FEELS like it.

I enjoy it too, it's a challenge and a rush.

The Story of Worcestershire Sauce: Origins, Uses, and Bonus Facts by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought Worcestershire sauce is a modern recreation of the ancient condiment Garum.

[Poem] The Tuna Sandwich by bumblbird in Foodfun

[–]runtis 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've never tried apple on a tuna sandwich, might have to!

The Story of Pontefract Cakes by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]ruperttaylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I came across the lists of names but did not find out which name corresponded to which candy. You probably found this website

https://web.archive.org/web/20080722115133/http://www.cadbury.com/ourbrands/otherfavouritebrands/candy/bassetts/Pages/Overview.aspx

It lists the names but that's all.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Rupert Taylor

The Story of Pontefract Cakes by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]la_cues 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good article!

Over Christmas, my family and I were doing some research into AllSorts. I had found sources saying that each candy has a name (like twists, spogs, dots, etc). But we couldn't track down what candy was called what! Have you any ideas?

We found out the pucks covered in lots of small balls are called spogs, or horsecakes. But we had to guess on the others, there doesn't seem to be any official data on this!

18 TREMENDOUS HEALTH BENEFITS OF PENIEAPPLE LEAVES by Allsinglesandmarrd in Foodfun

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol makes me think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6BUPvE2sM

18 TREMENDOUS HEALTH BENEFITS OF PENIEAPPLE LEAVES by Allsinglesandmarrd in Foodfun

[–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

PENIAPPLE

18 TREMENDOUS HEALTH BENEFITS OF PENIEAPPLE LEAVES by Allsinglesandmarrd in Foodfun

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder what pineapple* leaves taste like.. I imagine it's not very good lol

How to Make Cowboy Coffee by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good to hear from you. Homesteading just might be one of the most important skills around very soon but that's probably why you're doing it. Looking forward to seeing you on here more. Thanks.

How to Make Cowboy Coffee by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hey mano, i am busy (homesteading), but i will be back in the fall/winter.. i just log in regularly to mod atm.

:-)

How to Make Cowboy Coffee by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was heartwarming. Can anybody place that accent? N Texas?

A sweet old Cuban lady told me how to make coffee: Bring your water to a rolling boil, cut off the gas and throw in your Cafe Butelo—it has to be Cafe Butelo. Let it sit for a while and pour it through a felt coffee filter "or an old sock" and you're good to go. Quick and strong.

Useless_Aether, I haven't seen you in a coon's age.

The Bad News About Bacon by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to studies, eating two slices of bacon a day increases your relative risk for colorectal cancer by 18 percent. Smoking, on the other hand, increases your relative risk of lung cancer by 2,500 percent. I think I won't smoke, but I will occasionally eat bacon.

The Bad News About Bacon by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]sawboss 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The main cancer-causing culprits are nitrates and nitrites. These are added as preservatives and to give processed meats an appealing pinkish look. Nitrates occur naturally in such vegetables as lettuce and celery but in that form they do no harm. It’s when they interact with red meat that nitrates get troublesome. They form compounds such as nitrosomines, which are carcinogenic. The nitrosomines damage the cells in the lining of the bowel. Next step might be a visit to an oncologist. The dangers associated with nitrosomines have been known about for more than 60 years. Twenty-five years ago, a link was made between pregnant mothers eating hot dogs regularly and increased rates of brain cancer in children

Black Forest Ham (and that uncured BFH is an oxymoron) by Farseli in Foodfun

[–]Farseli[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of the other captures have different images, but this one is easier to read.

Magnificent Parmesan Cheese by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Farseli 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And now I'm hungry. Also, thanks for revealing this sub to me!

Do We Need Junk Food Taxes? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Alduin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No we don't. Saved you a click.

The US Government Just Reclassified 'Pink Slime' as 'Ground Beef' by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

also a good point, but we are using corn for fuel and paying farmers to grow nothing.

The US Government Just Reclassified 'Pink Slime' as 'Ground Beef' by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point. I don't think that we'll fail that far, cause man made climate change is a hoax.

Small intellectual victories...

The US Government Just Reclassified 'Pink Slime' as 'Ground Beef' by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

its still a long way to soylent green

The US Government Just Reclassified 'Pink Slime' as 'Ground Beef' by useless_aether in Foodfun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The corporate government has been in a tailspin dive for decades. It feels like it will crash any second... but I know that it won't.

There's still a long way down...

:-(

Haggis: The Untold Story by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]ruperttaylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to Scottish government statistics, the life expectancy for Scottish men is 77.1 years. I have no reason to suspect that haggis has anything to do with longevity.

Haggis: The Untold Story by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]DrStrangelove 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This made me wonder if "offal" and "awful" have an etymological connection. Surprisingly, they do not.

Haggis: The Untold Story by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Source?

Haggis: The Untold Story by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]TooBigForHollywood 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The last I heard Haggis which is made from sheep's offal is the reason the Scots have such abysmal health, where according to some reports the life expectancy for a Scottish male is at 49yrs the lowest in Europe.

Offal is bad for you is why old dogs that have been eating canned dog food all their lives are crippled with arthritis and rheumatism.

Is It French Fries or Belgian Frites? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's Freedom Fries, of course. /sarcasm

Is That Honey You’re Eating Real? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]nichos 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting article. I try to buy only local honey from my grocery store. But after reading this, I think I'll get it from the local guy that sells only honey. Seems less likely to be full of garbage.

Is That Honey You’re Eating Real? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who are you calling Real?

Are You Ready to Eat Horsemeat? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i had a lot of horse meat, mostly sausages. also donkey steak once. it was very good.

The Traditional Food of Newfoundland by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I lived in Newfoundland for a summer. Maybe you wouldn't think it but there's so much to see and do. And yet not. Like most places I guess, rich with local flavour and culture - but you have to seek it out, and have some means to travel (ie. gas, car), be sustainable (ie. food, shelter), and participate (if/when there are fees, parks, stores, etc).

Maybe copy this post to the "canada" sub?

Are You Ready to Eat Horsemeat? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, because I'm not ready to eat any meat :P !

Are You Ready to Eat Horsemeat? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]OldManCorley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been to an European IKEA, [probably already have.](Horsemeat found in Ikea meatballs; 21 nations hit | The Star - https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/02/25/horsemeat_found_in_ikeas_swedish_meatballs.html)

Are You Ready to Eat Horsemeat? by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd try it.

I wanted to try dolphin, but they were serving the fish version.

Breakfast the British Way by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]ruperttaylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but it took the culinary genius (irony alert) to put it all together as the Full English.

Breakfast the British Way by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]Captzapheart 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tomato ( native to America ) Bacon ( Danish ) Hienz Baked beans ( German ) The rest may be traditionally English, maybe.

Breakfast the British Way by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]ruperttaylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks.

Breakfast the British Way by ruperttaylor in Foodfun

[–]i_cansmellthat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good read!

Enjoy your links, just the right length with lots of curious details.