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[–]NastyWetSmear 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I'm curious as to why you think an identical genetic clone of a woman who doesn't want you would want you. Is the idea that, because they weren't born in the traditional way and are a perfect genetic copy of an already living person, that they would be your legal slave and there's no moral issues with you, essentially, raping them? Or is the plan for you to groom them from a literal infant to become your adult bride?

Or are we talking, like, sci-fi cloning, where they step out of the pod as a 22 year old with perfect intelligence already? I guess, in the scenario where the science is so advance we can't distinguish it from magic, you could just "Program" them to be in love with you the moment they are squirted out of the cloning tube, but does that differ from grooming?... She's only been alive for an hour and you've already mentally brainwashed her into wanting you because she never understood anything else.

... While we're at it, if we're just ignoring all moral implications and making super technology, why not use some kind of brainwashing, hypnosis helmet on the original Asian woman you wanted? You'd prolly find a greater than 0% of women who have that as some kind of fetish anyway, so if you could get one, and you had no ethical compunctions about the idea of removing someone's free will, you could skip the process of growing flesh from scratch.

Gosh, this is a health conversation. :)

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Actually, they should make sex robots that can reproduce when it receives sperm in its vagina. /s

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Have you seen these new sex dolls, by the way? The ones that they make to look like specific people or specific characters from movies or anime?

Here's a hypothetical for you:

You're with a woman. It's a long term, committed relationship.
Is buying a sex doll cheating?
If no, is buying a sex doll specifically tailored to look like a character from a game/cartoon cheating?
No? How about a specific character from a live action movie? Ergo a specific actress?
Still no? What if it's tailor made to look like a stranger, but a specific one you've seen?
If no, what about having it made to look like someone you both know?

It's still just a doll, but at what stage does buying a sex toy become cheating?

[–]Mcheetah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

at what stage does buying a sex toy become cheating?

When she/it can verbally refuse consent with you, but you go ahead anyway cause "sex bots don't have rights/consent." ...That was the plot of a movie, by the way.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, that's when a sex toy become rape. I said when does it become cheating? As in, when does your current partner say: "Hey, this vibrating cock ring you got? Using that is cheating on me."

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yeah, that's how I answered the question:

When your sex toys can speak back to you. Then it counts as being sentient enough to cheat on your partner with. With current AI, we'll be there within ten years.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Heh. I reckon most women would draw the line at you getting a sex doll that looks identical to that girl in the office you're "Just friends" with, no matter if it speaks or not. ;)

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I see it as masturbation.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Obviously it is, that's not really what I'm asking. What I'm asking is, at what stage would you think she'd say: "You're now basically cheating on me"?

It's still just masturbation if you're paying for your secretary's OnlyFans and jacking it to videos of her you've paid for where she moans your name and shoves a dildo up her backside, but you could easily see how your partner might consider it cheating still. So how close to a real person do you think you'd have to get before she said your sex doll is basically cheating?

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sex doll has to be self-aware and have a soul.

[–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are plenty of women to go around.

All incels need is an apartment and to stop being so fucking weird.

[–]Mcheetah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are plenty of women

Yeah and they just happen to be lesbians, feminist man-haters, girl-boss man-haters, E-thot whores, trannies, or literally retarded. Plenty of women out there, but very, very, VERY few GOOD women out there who are still single, let alone single, hetero, monogamous, and not a horrible person.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a weird paranoid fantasy that can only be borne out of a profound isolation.

[–]Megatron95 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You actually think a clone would have sex with you? If the original copy is turned off by you, chances are the duplicate will be too. All those extra clones might even resort to lesbianism to scratch the itch.

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Megatron95 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sign of the times. It's become a trend now.

[–]neolib 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cloning is not magic, with a current level of tech cloned people would have to be born in a usual way (via surrogate pregnancy), they just would be genetically identical to the source person.

See experiments with macaques for example:

The team used two enzymes to erase the epigenetic memory of the transferred nuclei of being somatic cells. This crucial reprogramming step allowed the researchers to overcome the main obstacle that had precluded the successful cloning of primates until now. They then placed 21 of these ova into surrogate mother monkeys, resulting in six pregnancies, two of which produced living animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Zhong_and_Hua_Hua

[–]Voater 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This type of thinking is why you are an incel. Get a personality. Find some hobbies that involve interaction with other humans. Relationships will follow.

[–]Mcheetah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That didn't exactly work out for Russia, now did it?

Sexbots with perfect AI will be the future. Not "female," like those man-hating feminist cunts with the T-shirts think.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nah. Robots is the way to go.